There was a poll showing that Trump won voters who don’t follow politics at all by 14 points. There seems to be a substantial proportion of the population who just picks who they vote for based on how well things have been going for them for the last 4 or 8 years.
With inflation, the pendulum swung towards Trump. After 4 years of tariffs, declining dollar value and Trump being unable to run again, I think that pendulum will swing fairly hard to the left. So conventional wisdom on not picking a candidate who will scare off centrists could be out the window. In which case, you might as well nominate AOC or someone similar.
Of course, president AOC won’t be able to accomplish all the things she wants to without a supportive congress and getting that to happen is a much bigger challenge than winning the presidency.
After 4 years of tariffs, declining dollar value and Trump being unable to run again, I think that pendulum will swing fairly hard to the left.
Trump is doing everything from threatening the media for failing to parrot regime propaganda to trying to render citizens to concentration camps after only a few months in power, and you think the US will still have free and fair elections in four years?!
The US has never had free nor fair elections.
Quit trying to support fascism by minimizing the damage it’s done. This is not normal.
I’m doing the opposite. The fascist us has always excluded voters and its vote collecting and counting system is inherently insecure. Hell poll intimidation has been such a huge issue historically there are laws against it that are plainly ignored in red states.
The US, by no possible definition, does not have free nor fair elections. It has always been the worst implementation of democracy, oligarchy.
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What shock? AOC is the only one in that party with clear positioning
The democratic party is cooked if it runs Kamala again. There is no way Kamala is running this high in the polls.
Defeatists ignoring the number of people attending her rallies recently.
I’d vote for AOC over Kamala, 100%.
I mean, I still voted for Kamala, but I wasn’t excited about it.
It’s Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. And she’s one of the last persons still right in the head in that circus. 2028 elections may not even happen, and she is the one that is needed to be behind the wheel not then but right fucking now.
“SHOCK POLL”
I’m GLAD that Democrats LEARNED from their Past Elections and are running a KNOWN LOSER WHO COULDNT BEAT A LITERAL FASCIST who Ran on the Platform of Ruining Our Lives! It pairs VERY WELL with Chuck Schumer’s Policy of doing NOTHING while American Citizens are Deported to El Salvadorian DEATH CAMPS!
You probably need to take a break from the internet, for your own health and safety.
IDK, these days people disappear when they go out to touch grass…
Oof…
The Poll isn’t by the DNC it’s by Yale University. Dufus.
Imagine losing to a carnival barker 2 times and not learning a thing from it. They will run their 2016 and 2024 playbook again in 2018 and wonder how they lost, again.
Fucking morons never learn.
Oh they learn, the wrong lessons.
Anyone here who seriously thinks Democrats will win without playing dirty and purging Republican votes in the millions? Please CMV.
What??? Why is Kamala still in the running AT ALL?!?! jesus fucking christ.
As others have said, if Harris was out there doing what Bernie and AOC have been doing, then maybe there would be room for discussion. As it stands now? Nah, step aside sis.
AOC would receive my vote.
Who the fuck is thinking about 2028?!? I’m just trying to get out of 2024 alive.
Let’s be honest, we’d vote for a shit sammich right now over the orange cancer and his clown parade…
that was the option THIS time. and way WAY too many people voted for this clown parade. why do you think a 2028 election will be different?
Only a shock to folks who still think Democrat centerists are what’s gonna win the votes
I will vote for AOC with pride. But I’m leery about running another woman right now. Neither Hillary nor Kamala could win against Trump.
That said, I can’t think of anyone I’d be happier to vote for. I dream of her being President. I don’t know if swing states will have it, but I would fight to make it so.
I’m a huge AOC supporter, but she should wait a 2 or 3 cycles (if there are any cycles anymore). I’d rather see her take Schumer’s senate seat, and serve there for a term or two first, and succeed Bernie as the Senate’s progressive leader.
Maybe because Hillary and Kamala were terrible candidates? Are you kidding me?
Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. There’s no statistical difference in the chances of victory between men and women when running for political office. Lots of Republican politicians are women. I don’t see it as a big deal.
Also, lots of open racists voted for Obama. If you look at the polling and the interviews, it was much more about running conservative Democrats trying to get the votes of people who wanted to shake things up. That’s what Obama promised, that’s why Sanders would’ve won, by some measures, and it seems AOC is out there generating the same buzz.
There’s no statistical difference in the chances of victory between men and women when running for political office. Lots of Republican politicians are women. I don’t see it as a big deal.
It’s only a deal because the democratic party is willing to hold back all women just to prevent the success of one progressive woman.
Hillary and Kamala were awful candidates - they wouldn’t have won if they were men or if it were the first coming of Christ. (I’m skeptical he ever arrived at all). The DNC is the blame for their failure. Hillary was out of touch. Kamala had too many issues to list.
All that aside, they would have presidented circles around Trump.
Exactly zero people who voted for trump last election will vote for a non-white woman.
Country is fucked.
I will vote for AOC with pride. But I’m leery about running another woman right now.
…that we’re talking about a progressive woman.
“We want to maintain the status quo that led to the election of Trump twice!”
Exactly! It’s just… why?
Because no matter who is in office they’re still part of the enrichment scheme that is our government. They don’t really care who wins or loses because it doesn’t really affect them.
That’s why it’s important to be represented by the marginalized so that the decisions actually matter to the people making them.
A Democratic centrist literally polled at #1. It’s in the headline.
Needs a little Asterisk* next to centrist and a footnote
*still way further left than any Republican
AOC is a progressive. Harris was too, prior to her role as VP.
Cops are not progressive, they protect the interests of the state, not it’s people
She ran on exactly the same thing as Biden and backtracked on everything progressive she said in previous campaigns.
She ran with Progressive planks, but she was a DA. She’s a cop. Cops aren’t progressive.
And as we all know…
Repeat after me kids
All Cops Are Bastards
Yea harris is far from a progressive. She kept people in jail for bullshit marijuana charges.
Attorneys aren’t cops. Can we stop with the right wing smear campaign?
District Attorneys work for cops and for the interest of the government. They’re worse than cops… They empower, protect, and exonerate cops.
This isn’t a right wing smear, it’s a reality check for libs still clutching their pearls over their shitty candidate.
And yet, the cops hated her…
I read it as “it’s a shock that she came in second” lol
