I read all the comments and I still don’t understand what makes this comic interesting
I had hoped to escape seeing low-effort Pizzacake comics on the front page when I left reddit for good.
I don’t even understand what the joke is or if there even is one
I guess melodramatic sarcasm isn’t for everyone. I got a nice little chuckle out of it.
Yup. This checks all of the “that is definitely how people talk”-boxes. It’s like an invented dialogue meets a fantasy answer.
Can we not have AIop being upvoted to the top? Thanks.
This made me chuckle out loud thanks for sharing! Do you mind if I share it in [email protected]
That is a very strange place.
Don’t make me cast a spell on you…
Can we please not bring pizza cake comics over from reddit? They’re so mid they aren’t even funny. Strawman comics that show off the author’s frustrations.
It makes the normies feel like their virtues are being validated, let them have it.
Thank you
Or we bring all content and yiu can just skip the crap you don’t like. You know, like most of us do with other things.
I agree that skipping content is the way to go, Lemmy is federated and all that, but I don’t think it works with a post like this.
This post somehow got 1.2k likes but there’s no real discussion in the comments (mainly about the author like we are discussing right now) and it doesn’t contribute anything of value to the site. It’s a post that most people probably scroll past without giving it any thought, like, and immediately forget - the worst type of social media content for which I don’t see a reason to exist here.
I like Lemmy because it has a kind of “people using a website” feel instead of a “generic content slop feed” vibe like reddit, tiktok, ect. I think Lemmy, as a community, should encourage high quality OC content on the platform instead of accepting generic and forgettable posts like this and just saying “ignore it”.
I’m with you on this one.
I can see that people don’t always know how to word their critique. But the point is simple: This is a toxic way to deal with that type of annoyance in your life. It’s a comic, indeed, maybe not meant to be taken seriously, but I would much better see comics about interesting, or fun things. This type of ordinary, sarcastic social commentary you present as a comic does not help your cause nor make the sub a better place.
Why is it that everytime I see this artist nowadays it’s just a preachy kill-a-strawman comic? I remember them being funny back in the day, what happened? Did they change, did I? Am I mistaking a shite copycat for an artist I remember fondly? Is this what senility feels like? How was your day?
A strawman? What the fuck are you talking about?
I remember them being funny back in the day, what happened?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hidden-motives/201203/unreliable-memory
Don’t gaslight people lol
you see, when somebody says something mean to you online, spending your time on 4-panel is the best way to prove how not mad you are, consult some Dobson webcomics if you need examples.
Is it really a strawman when we see actual headlines about public figures acting this way?
Turns out, lemmy has a massive misogyny problem going on ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
If you don’t think my joke is funny you’re a racist
Yep. Came to the comments and immediately saw they were out in force. I mod [email protected] and although the majority of men who’ve turned up have been great, we’ve had some misogynists mansplaining and being petty. Fortunately we’re women only
Honestly if someone is referring to themselves as “high value” anything then it’s pretty clearly a low value thought. Doesn’t really matter who they are.
Oh good lord…. It’s going to be r/comics all over again.
Prepare…. For litany!
Are these Questionable Content characters?
No. Different comics, different artists, different themes. - But some similarity in visual style.
It does look a little similar, but I don’t think it’s related.
Instead of becoming an incel, you should first consider acting like the woman in this comic when somebody doesn’t want to date you.
I feel like this is one of those conversations you make up in your head and it’s kinda cringe to write it down.
Just look at this thread. People are out in force acting superior to her and putting her down for having an only fans. Theyre providing unsolicited feedback, acting “high valued” without even realize theyre doing it. This comic is showing how she sees the unsolicited feedback from these people on the internet, and calls it out as it is, inconsequential to her life. And what do those very same people do? Get even more upset.
Frankly, i knew nothing about this lady before this thread happened. It’s been a wild ride for me to follow
Big shower-arguement energy for sure.
When you consider the source….
From my experience men often underestimate how often women face weirdos. While the whole conversation might happen only in authors head the initial comment of the guy is quite a regular thing. It is a form of bullying. The rest of the conversation might happen in the authors head only, but it’s sad that women have to face such behavior in the first place IMO. If you don’t think such conversation happens at all, you might get enlightened by the everyday sexism project, the related (audio)book, or just ask a friendly woman around you if they ever faced it. https://everydaysexism.com/
Actually it is a regular thing among the asshole “manosphere” crowd (i.e. the pathetic fucking losersphere).
You’ve had this conversation?
I brought up an example of a specific sexist and controlling behavior I observed (guys holding their wives or girlfriends by the neck while walking across the street, like they were steering a chicken) in a meetup group and all the men around me said they had never seen it. The two women said they both had experienced it.
Repeat this a thousand and one times with other behavior I and presumably you, as men, will never have to experience but are just as real.
No, but I thought about having it, so basically the same thing, eh?
No but I’ve seen it. I’m not a manosphere wacko
Lemmy is 97% Linux users
Aka, high value men
These programming socks have no gender
These comics are great if you are… Probably just a normal person who thinks that the act of creating anything deserves praise.
But if you start comparing it to the best comics… it’s just some lady who uses it as a blog.
I don’t know why political comics are so annoying. It’s like even if I agree with the creator’s political views, I still don’t find them funny.
Political memes are usually funny, though. You’d think it would be the other way around, because comics take more effort to make.
One, who was comparing it to “the best comics”?..And two, what does that have to do with the subject matter?
I’m pretty real sure nobody was comparing themselves as superior to Charles Schultz or Gary Trudeau
comparing it to the best comics
Indeed, it’s not The Family Circus nor The Lockhorns…
It’s such a stupid satire by a sad person who can’t address valid criticism and who feel that their only recourse is to straw man.
Staw man/Fantasy: Guy telling a random woman on the street, who happens to be married, “I wouldn’t even date you”. The strong and independent woman answers with sarcasm.
Reality: The woman is a single mother with 10+ past partners who has failed to secure a good father for her child.
Next, you’re going to tell me that a snail doing cocaine isn’t realistic?
No, no, shh, I want to believe.
You’ve never seen the “I wouldn’t even date you” negging, where adult-aged boys try to trick women into pleading their case to the kid?
I think I go to the bar 2 or 3 times a year, and I’ve seen it several times. I’m glad that doesn’t seem to be as much of a thing in the gay community, at least that I’ve seen.
It depends on who the male character in the comic is supposed to be. If it’s in that setting, then yeah I can imagine it happening.
I was thinking about MGTOWs and internet personalities who use words like “high value male/female”, and my interpretation of this comic is that this is supposed to be satire of them. If that’s what the comic artist was going for then, I believe my criticism is deserved.
If it’s referencing immature men saying “I wouldn’t even date you” to women they actually find attractive, well, I haven’t seen it myself by I can imagine it happening. That’s however not what I was thinking about addressing this comic.
The comic is a bit ambiguous about what it’s talking about specifically.
Stop. Get some help.
Take your own advice, kiddo.
You’d have made a valid point if you stopped half way through.
You are free to disagree, but I don’t feel I would have been able to complete my point without the second half.
Staw man/Fantasy: Guy telling a random woman on the street, who happens to be married, “I wouldn’t even date you”. The strong and independent woman answers with sarcasm.
This is one of the most prominent parts of manosphere ideology, and they are not quiet about it or shy about sharing it. We used to call it “negging”. This comic is pointing out the absurdity of toxic men thinking they are too good for most women.
Reality: The woman is a single mother with 10+ past partners who has failed to secure a good father for her child.
I have no idea what the reality is for this cartoonist, nor do I care, but you’ve managed to make three misogynistic value judgments in one short sentence, which is kind of impressive in a sad and pathetic way. First, there’s nothing inherently wrong with being a single mother. Second, a woman’s worth is not determined by the number of past partners she’s had, a standard which is never applied to men. Third, securing a good father for her child is not the be-all-end-all goal of a single mother. Raising her child(ren) is. This can be done with or without a man involved.
This is not a defense of particular internet personalities, who may or may not deserve criticism on their own.
Maybe not, but it sure comes off as an endorsement of their values.
Rather, it’s to point out that these comics are stupid, and don’t address valid criticism that’s out there that need to be addressed properly.
So a comic strip didn’t address sexism in the specific way that you approve of, and you think the proper response is to degrade the cartoonist as a whorish single mother who can’t find a good man?
Dude. You are the guy in the comic.
First, there’s nothing inherently wrong with being a single mother.
Single motherhood is not easy, and I have sympathy for any woman who has become a single mother with no power of her own. The critique is not aimed at single motherhood, but rather at women who make (selfish) decisions in life that leaves the children without a father. It cannot be understated how damaging that can be for her children.
One reason why I said that certain internet personalities deserve criticism on their own is that they advocate for men engaging in promiscuity and cause the same problems that these personalities claim they dislike.
Second, a woman’s worth is not determined by the number of past partners she’s had, a standard which is never applied to men.
Yes, it’s a factor that men will judge a woman by. It makes sense, because a more extensive past will more likely affect a future relationship.
Men should be held to a higher standard as well, I don’t disagree with that.
Third, securing a good father for her child is not the be-all-end-all goal of a single mother. Raising her child(ren) is. This can be done with or without a man involved.
It has been shown that children who are raised with a single parent fare worse than with both parents. It’s clear that single motherhood is not something to be desired, neither for the children nor the mothers themselves. Many single mothers are complaining, on the internet about this, so it’s strange that you are trying to defend them by claiming that there is no issue to complain about…
So a comic strip didn’t address sexism in the specific way that you approve of, and you think the proper response is to degrade the cartoonist as a whorish single mother who can’t find a good man?
I wasn’t talking about the cartoonist. I was talking about the made up characters that supposedly reflect reality. When someone sees this comic, it’s most likely that they don’t think about who drew it. They will likely see the comic in isolation from the artist, just like I did.
It has been shown that children who are raised with a single parent fare worse than with both parents.
By who? Where?
Just, eww!! Fucking eeewww!! 🤮
Sorry for the unfamiliar opinions. Do you need me to call a doctor?
Yeah, uh no, not unfamiliar. See the above comic. You are in it and it’s got your panties all in a twist apparently.
People who need some professional assistance will do that shit you’re talking about.
I was emoting how sick you make me feel, when one of you randomly creeps up. And especially when you think anyone cares about your weird ideals, for any gender.
I think the problem is that you think I’m arguing in bad faith, and I’m not. Nor is anything that I said that controversial.
No offense, but I think you really need to touch some grass.
Oh my. Well since I only get on here periodically, I think YOU should get your Very Own Personal Tag!
Then, if you’re still around after I unblock you, I’ll get to see your fancy lil tag if you shownup, and remember how sensitive you got over a comic. That you coulda’ just ignored ffs.
Thanks, saved me having to write that. There is a lot of valid criticism women can level against “the modern man”, depending on the culture they live in. But this is not it. I have never heard of a guy claiming to be of higher status and cussing off a woman who rejected him. Maybe we sometimes think we’re higher status than a woman or whatever, but then again we do that with other men too. It’s a human thing, not a gender thing. Women most definitely categorize men into lower and higher strata subconsciously too, if nothing else.
“I, as a man, have never encountered this scenario myself. Therefore, it is completely made up and reason to be further misogynistic.” Is all I saw there brother.
You’re probably in good company then, but should still strive to do a lot better.
I’m also glad to hear from someone else who is seeing what I’m seeing.
I feel sometimes that the level of discourse around here needs an upgrade.
Oh great…the 4channers are here…
Wrong. Try again.
Wow, some folks need to remember that online life isn’t real life…
Please, go touch some grass before you scare some normie by talking about your favorite/most-hated web comic.
pizzacakecomics has actually accurately portrayed the way men are treated before:
First panel of that comic here
Ah. And I thought the artist had actually made a good point.
I see you, dutifully trying to cover all the slight and misinformation in here with proper attributions and context.
It must be exhausting.
Thanks for effort, and don’t forget to breathe and keep hydrated. Thanks for trying to hold community together.
You think the treatment of men by women is bad? Wait till your whole family dies, and then other men tell you to suck it up.
Or tell you to “keep the peace.”
Is this genuine and unaltered? I’d have assumed it was an edit.
Yep, I think the comic was called talk. Here’s another unedited pizzacake slide that shows how women act towards men who’ve done nothing wrong. This one is extra credit because, to her audience, the guy in this is the villain:
Full context to that panel:
How does she look more reasonable when taken out of context?
I wonder if you’ve really never seen this panel in its original context, or if you’re just a troll. My money is on the latter.
As someone who used to be a guy… this hits
It’s even better in it full context
Why does her actually interesting work never get posted here?
Truthfully she doesn’t have a lot of interesting comics, most of it is very mediocre.
Burn the witch! To the town square
