• Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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    8 hours ago

    Windows is free for anyone to use indefinitely… If you’re OK with a persistent watermark.

    Why even add a premium to the laptop? Let the user decide to use windows as-is, pay a license, or switch to Linux. 🤭

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    9 hours ago

    The price difference does make sense, it’s the cost to cover therapy for the employee that was forced to preinstall Windows on a computer for the thousandth time

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    12 hours ago

    Currently in France No OS is -€60 and with Fedora or Ubuntu it’s -€30

    Don’t ask. Different markets, pricing irrelevant to actual costs

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      Fedora or Ubuntu. But I’d say the important part is that they probably provide all necessary drivers.

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        These seem to be the two most commonly supported distros by laptop manufacturers. Framework officially support these two distros, too (they have unofficial guides for a bunch of other distros though)

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        Usually enabling Ubuntu’s third party / proprietary repo covers all necessary drivers.

        I remember having lots of driver issues on fedora but that was like two decades ago. I’d imagine they have that sorted now.

        Anyway this is good news. Grow the user base.

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      14 hours ago

      incorrect. currently sporting an ideapad pro that i bought directly from lenovo last year and it came without windows pre-installed.

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    1 day ago

    in brazil, we used to have a law forcing for this to be a thing. back in the laptop days, it used to be reasonably common for people to buy one without windows, and pirate it later. or with linux with the intention of formatting it. or because it was cheaper.

    it turns out brazil fomented a big userbase for linux for a while there. if this is widespread i’m pretty sure adoption will grow for the simple fact people will at least get to try it. free market my ass, microsoft is an oligopoly.

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        15 hours ago

        i wanted to say we still do but im not sure. its been a while since i shopped for one.

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          Wouldn’t be surprised if Bolsonaro had gotten pocketed a kickback from MS to quietly remove that law’s teeth.

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            i checked the brazilian dell website and they offer ubuntu as a choice. i’m not sure if they are doing it by their own choice or by force of law though.

            bolsonaro gutting this law wouldnt surprise me, but i don’t see it as relevant enough (at least right now) for them to even bother glossing over this tbh.

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    1 day ago

    Wow, I didn’t realize the windows tax was that high. I thought the bulk OEM licensing was significantly cheaper than the retail price.