So how much more fascism will Americans tolerate before they actually do something.

  • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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    6 hours ago

    Arresting judges is a good thing as judges aren’t above the law. In a healthy, democracy an AG wouldn’t be threatening judges with arrest, any investigation would be carried out in a proper manner, and there would be public hearings about everything. Politicans would wisely say “No comment” on any investigation.

    In this case, the whole thing was engireed to send a message to the judicary “Play ball with us, or you’re going to get arrested”.

    ICE had the ability to calmly walk into the court room, ID whoever they needed, wait until everything was done, and arrested the person out in the hall. Instead ICE went in and made a scene about it, to either force Judge Hannah Dugan to capitulate to ICE or to set up a situation where ICE could trump up obstruction charges.

    Now, you have a facist AG openly saying:

    “What has happened to our judiciary is beyond me. The [judges] are deranged is all I can think of. I think some of these judges think that they are beyond and above the law. They are not, and we are sending a very strong message today. If you are harboring a fugitive, we will come after you and we will prosecute you. We will find you.”

    “If you are obstructing justice,” she added, “it will not be tolerated.”

    Almost guaranteed that the defintion of obstruction is going to be streched to cover judges denying deportations to the El Salvadoran concentration camps.

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    15 hours ago

    This is what I hate. Even as they back down from one thing they are just doing other things and will get back to the first thing again.

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    16 hours ago

    Every judge is calling her bluff rn

    It’s so apparent this admin doesn’t talk to one another. They’re all off just huffing ketamine and running their mouths.

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      16 hours ago

      Running their mouths and arresting judges.

      They should call her bluff, but they should also expect a fight.

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        14 hours ago

        That state judge was bailed out on her own recognizance within a few hours of being arrested, which had to require the federal court system her case landed in to move extra quickly, so I think they’re calling the bluff and dodging punches alright

        Of course, it’s a fucking disgrace that nobody with the legal authority to do so is throwing any punches back or doing enough to help the people who don’t have the social status judges do dodge the punches this administration is throwing at them, but I think at least judges are going to try to protect each other and the power of the judiciary in general

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          14 hours ago

          Judges are corrupt to the bone. They won’t protect the ones with opposing political views. This whole place is wildly fucked. We are going to see swift removal of dissent soon.

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            13 hours ago

            Oh, look, a popular Russian propaganda talking point.

            Tagged as “compromised”.

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              11 hours ago

              I’m sure the word choice will contain fewer letters for the maga audience to understand, but yes, compromised sums it up

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    16 hours ago

    throwing judges in jail seems like the very definition of “contempt of court” to me …

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    17 hours ago

    So how much more fascism will Americans tolerate before they actually do something.

    What do you want us to do?

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      11 hours ago

      FFS.

      Your compatriots have been telling us for years the reason you can’t do anything about children being massacred in schools is so that y’all can retain the ability to fight back against governmental over-reach

      So fight back you bloviated big mouthed all talk no fucking action cunts.

      You’ve always been full of shit, now you’re proving it. Leaders of the free world my fucking arse.

    • Nougat@fedia.io
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      15 hours ago

      This is ultimately going to take everyone, at every level of risk and action. Every individual person has a level of risk they’re willing to take on right now. As the landscape of this conflict evolves, you may find yourself willing to take on more risk than you’re prepared to today.

      So - do things which either match the risk level you align with today:

      • Don’t talk to cops
      • Join or create mutual aid groups
      • Go protest, because your presence is supportive of other people present, passing by, and especially people who are rightfully too scared to look anyojne in the eye right now
      • With regard to protests, bring water, milk (for pepper spray), mylar emergency blankets, snacks, first aid, garbage bags to clean up after as necessary
      • If you have knowledge of someone else’s resistance activites which might get them in trouble, no you don’t
      • If someone you know wants to travel to protest, support them with supplies, gas/food/lodging money
      • Connect people with other like-minded people, especially if they’re interested in taking on more risk than you are able to; their efforts will be greater together than separate
      • Get into a mindset of “If I have to GTFO right now, what would that look like?” Leave more space between your car and others, especially at stops, and look for exit paths
      • Keep your gas tanks and cans full, for either your emergency use or someone else’s
      • Water, too
      • Have pepper spray

      … or things which will prepare you to take larger risks when you’re ready to (or have to):

      • Make room in your house for people who might need to take shelter
      • Arm yourself, and practice
      • Put together a “go bag”, include camping gear
      • Get some black bloc clothing - oversized lightweight black top and pants, make them easy to put on/take off over clothes and shoes - buy from thrift stores as you are able
      • Build relationships with other like-minded people so that you have more avenues for action when the time comes

      There are all sorts of low-risk things you can do today. For every “front line infantry” in a conflict, there need to be ten or so people acting as support services, many of them way away from direct physical danger to themselves. It’s going to take all of us, pulling together in a variety of ways, all efforts great and small. This isn’t going to end soon, and it’s not going to be pretty. Get prepared for the long haul, with the mindset that you may find yourself doing things tomorrow that you would never imagine today. Make yourself a little more prepared as often as you can.

      What do you want us to do?

      Get ready. Whatever that means for you today, do it. Be creative, and get a little bit out of your comfort zone. Reassess what those mean tomorrow; lather, rinse, repeat.

    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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      16 hours ago

      This is something.

      Organized under the “Hands Off!” banner, demonstrations voicing opposition to the administration’s policies occurred in over 1,400 locations across all 50 U.S. states,[18] drawing up to an estimated 3-5 million participants nationwide according to the demonstration organizers.[19][20] According to demonstration coordinators, the protests involved a coalition of over 150 progressive, labor union, pro-democracy, civil rights, LGBTQ+, and women’s rights groups.[24]

      In Tennessee, protests were held in Knoxville[163] (reportedly with thousands of attendees),[164] Nashville[165] (around 3,000 attendees),[166] Chattanooga, Maryville,[167] Johnson City , Kingsport (around 500),[168] Greeneville, Morristown,[169] and Cookeville.[170]

      In Florida, thousands of protesters demonstrated in Miami,[173] joined by about 1,000 protesters in Pensacola,[174] and nearly 2,000 in The Villages,[175] a Republican stronghold retirement community in which organizers attempted to limit the number of online RSVPs to 500.[176].

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hands_Off_protests

    • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
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      16 hours ago

      What do you want us to do?

      How about using that 2nd amendment you keep flashing to justify tens of thousands of useless deaths by firearm every year?

      Now is the time to rise up and prove that y’all ain’t just a bunch of wannabe Rambos.

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        Who is this “you keep flashing”? Who is it you think you are talking to? We are not them. I suspect most commenters’ histories here will not depict a “wannabe Rambo”. The people you wanna yell at aren’t here.

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          15 hours ago

          You as a people. Not you Mr. Nice Guy who doesn’t own a gun.

          America is awash with guns and gun owners who don’t like what’s going on one bit. Where are they with their guns? They keep saying guns are necessary in part to keep the government in check, they go to the range and shoot boxloads of ammos to “train”, some of them are preppers and talk big about defending the constitution and the American way of life. And yet when a fucking fascist is installing a dictatorship before their very eyes… suddenly, not a peep.

          Fucking pretend tough guys. That’s what Americans are - as a nation, not you Mr. Nice Guy.

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            Mr. Nice Guy uses medical marijuana and isn’t allowed to own a gun. No protection for Mr. Nice Guy. Aww sads. No one needs your condescension.

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              I wasn’t being condescending and I wasn’t asking you why you don’t own a gun.

              I don’t either. I hate firearms. As such, neither you or I are in a position to exercize our 2nd amendment right. It’s not for everybody.

              But there are plenty of people in America who DO own a gun and who DO talk big, but don’t walk the talk when it matters the most. That’s my point.

          • Bonesince1997@lemmy.world
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            13 hours ago

            I’m sorry, I don’t take kindly to “get off your asses” from a fresh account. Is that how you started here? Hi, nice to meet you. Now get off your ass! I’m sure that’s normal.

            • Nyticus@kbin.melroy.org
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              You’re definitely that edgy child who mommy and daddy had to pay allowance to just to do chores. Get your pizza rolls, you lazy slob. Bet you don’t even have a job, champ. Wow, what a production you are.

    • inclementimmigrant@lemmy.worldOP
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      I attended an anti trump rally openly carrying a sign and a firearm, what have you done?

      Have you protested outside of Tik Tok or an Internet forum? Have you called your representatives and demanded they do more than hold up a tiny paddle?

      Fuck, I get keeping your head down, hell that was my going in plan for the next four years but fuck me of were not getting into China levels of totalitarianism much quicker than expected and Americans are barely making a squeak. Honestly it’s very pathetic.