• inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Blah, blah, blah.

    Most people supported the impeaching the fat fascist in his last term too and it went nowhere because Republicans independents voted the hard R.

    And what’s different now? Not a damn thing. This will go nowhere outside of calls from the current Democratic leadership mewling pathetically and ineffectively for bipartisanship just like last time.

  • grte@lemmy.ca
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    13 days ago

    Majority of US Voters Support Third Trump

    Oh god

    Impeachment

    Oh thank god

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    13 days ago

    For a second, i missread the title as third term instead of impeachment and was like “WTF!!!”

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    12 days ago

    Trump isn’t going to give up power willingly. He is openly and gleefully breaking everything with no thought of the consequences. Republicans wouldn’t be going along with it unless they think they are untouchable. If they think kidnapping people with no due process and dumping them in concentration camps isn’t going to have a consequence, then they are all in. Trusting the rest of their lives on Trump isn’t a bet I would take, but I’m just an everyday idiot.

  • Akaru88@lemm.ee
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    13 days ago

    What good would impeachment prove when it’s happened twice before and nothing comes of it

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      13 days ago

      This time, Congress could stop blowing the cheeto and have him removed. You know, one of the branches keeping the others in check. I know it ain’t likely, but a man can dream.

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        13 days ago

        At this point they are all so complicit in his crimes that that will never happen, because it will implicate them as well.

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      13 days ago

      I think you forget that the second time they got to 54 votes to convict, including multiple Republicans. It’s difficult but not impossible. And even if they don’t get a conviction, which is obviously the most likely outcome, at the very least it distracts the administration and as long as the public supports it it’s a winning issue.

      If you think things will keep marching unimpeded the way they are now with impeachment proceedings going on, I think you forget how disruptive they have been in the past

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        13 days ago

        and when the inevitable ‘acquittal’ from the senate comes, it will empower him and he’ll crank the shitshow up even more than it already is.

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          OK then I guess we shouldn’t impeach him. Cool. Let’s just keep doing what we’re doing. Unless you’ve got some great plan you’re trying to tee up here?

          The only way to beat Trump is to turn the public against him. Until the public turns on him, there is no political will to stop him.

  • CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
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    13 days ago

    Impeach and Remove. See, I’ve learned impeachment is toothless without that second bit, have to be very specific with expectations.

  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    13 days ago

    Step 1: Vote for Trump.

    Step 2 (less than six months later): Support impeaching Trump.

    What’s up with this group of people?

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        13 days ago

        I think a lot of it is cultural a bit? I’ve seen interviews and these are Republican voters for like years and years and would never consider voting otherwise.

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          12 days ago

          culture does effect this not all trump voters are the same some absolutely do know exactly what they are voting for others don’t this even includes some lifelong republican voters. a lot of Americans treat politics as a team sport and don’t even know a lot of the policies they are actually supporting when they vote republican and when asked about specific issues they may have a more progressive stance than the republican party does.

          a lot of people don’t really think about politics or actively read the news I think ignorance is a large part of what got trump into power (and how republicans stay in power). trump says he is going to fix everything and the democrats are telling them that the economy is doing great actually but they are still negatively impacted by things like inflation to someone who isn’t paying attention trump might seem better because at least he acknowledging their economic struggle and is saying they will do something to fix it.

          there are also a lot of people who just didn’t like either candidate and thought trump would be slightly better and voted for him these are probably the trump voters who want him impeached right now.

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            trump says he is going to fix everything and the democrats are telling them that the economy is doing great actually

            I felt this was a bit of failed messaging on the Democrats. I think they did point out some of the struggles but when talking about the economy and immediately pointing to stock market highs when the cost of living has sharply risen very recently doesn’t connect.

            Trump’s magic is that he has verbal diarrhea and it’s kinda like an empty slate where you take whatever you want from his speeches.

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        Majority of america voters are below measurable iq cause they voted for a baby rapist felon who tried to do a coup. A large portion are insanely stupid since they didn’t vote or voted for some third option in a 2 party system.

  • Tanis Nikana@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    I don’t support impeachment. I support his demise.

    Reading his obituary will be more celebrated by me than my own birthday.

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      You ever see those memes where the killer comes into the house, but can’t find the victim. So the killer does something akin to "shave and a haircut two bits…

      You don’t have to kill these people. But you have a duty to revoke their right to vote.

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      13 days ago

      While I agree that fascists like him should be afraid to go out in public, that particular fascist dying would make him a martyr. He needs to live long enough to be convicted again and actually serve jail time.

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        13 days ago

        That is silly because the US justice system will never ever do that, you could just as well hope to win the lottery and have better odds. The US justice system is dead, if it ever existed. His demise is a much more realistic hope.

        Also they already act like he is a martyr, it won’t change anything with regards to that.

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        He can die of cholesterol.

        There. No martyrdom. Also it’s likely to happen.

        All I have to do is put my feet up, and not call McDonalds and tell them that their food is unhealthy and they should change it.

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        13 days ago

        This time get someone who can actually hit the fucking broadside of a barn.

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        13 days ago

        I would actually prefer an impeachment and removal from office. That would actually be a huge step in unfucking our current situation

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          You are basically saying “if we unfucked our current situation then we could impeach and remove him from office”, because the impossibility of holding him accountable is part of the problem.

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    13 days ago

    Republicans in the Senate are terrified he’ll wreck their careers. I genuinely don’t know what it would take for him to be removed, besides his MAGAt supporters actually calling to have him out of office (we’re past the point of reason). Though, most are too stupid to know when they’re getting screwed until the bill is served.

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        It isn’t possible, because the system couldn’t give less fucks about what a majority of voters wants, it is all about what congress wants. You know, the criminals who belong to the same criminal organisation as Trump.

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        13 days ago

        Or vote majority dems but still got Trump because your “Democracy” got some middle-men and land-over-people system built-in.

        And even with a fair system, we just saw stupidity at play in Germany. Historically high vote participation of ~82.5% and yet still 28.6% for the so called “(christian) Union” (average Republicans), 20.8% AfD (straight-up Nazis) and 16.4 to 8.8% for Social Dems, Greens and The Left. Only reason we aren’t completely fucked like the US is that there are more parties, and the Union didn’t fully finished cuddling with the Nazis yet (they love to do so though, both domestic as well as US MAGA).

        The moment you got bad education and especially a bad populistic Press democracy stops working and starts deconstructing itself. Not to mention you’ll get both + pissed off people in a completely fucked economical system.