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If you think you can actually radicalise liberals you probably haven’t tried talking to them during an election year.
It’s much easier to de-extremify (or even radicalise) a fascist than a liberal, and the reason why is pretty clear to me now - liberals are far, far more invested in the maintenance of the status quo than the rank-and-file fascist is.
Every fascist is a fallen comrade the capitalists got to first with the wrong solution?
Horseshoe brainlessness aside, there are certainly quite a lot of the opposite, Marxist/anarchist scholars in America who ended up swerving hard right as they aged under Reaganism. It’s pretty weird to me.
Every fascist is a fallen comrade the capitalists got to first with the wrong solution?
Not every one… there are lots of utterly irredeemable people in the fascist rank-and-file. And there’s no point in trying to differentiate which is which when they are marching down the street.
There is one thing that we on the left needs to take cogniscance of. The (so-called) “liberal democracies” we exist under only allows for the existence of two distinct ideologies - liberalism and fascism. It is only logical that when the one fails, people will attempt the other.
“It’s much easier to de-extremify (or even radicalise) a fascist than a liberal, and the reason why is pretty clear to me now - liberals are far, far more invested in the maintenance of the status quo than the rank-and-file fascist is.”
This is super interesting to me, because it simultaneously challenges my assumptions while making intuitive sense. I don’t have any experience trying to de-extremify a fascist, but what you describe feels plausible
This was on full display during the last election. Genocide is apparently okay now. Long as a black.woman or senile old man enables it.
For me it’s both, I guess?
Before the bullshit threshold I’m calmly reading what the liberal says, and calmly explaining stuff like:
- why capitalism won’t fix itself
- why it’s a bad idea to give the Nazi a voice, Weimar Republic style
- why all this “my country” thing is inane, and why we should be identifying ourselves first and foremost as human beings
- why and how gender and sex are different things
But as the liberal keeps babbling, and enters the bullshit threshold, my attitude suddenly flips to something like “aaaah, cut off the crap! I already explained this, dammit. Do you need to be spoonfed basic [reading comprehension | reasoning]???”
I don’t typically use the word “bootlicker” in English, but in Portuguese I do use “pelego” (kind of the same thing) a fair bit.
Ooh, I like that image. I have a friend who would love that graph — do you know who I should credit if I share it?
I did it on the spot, no credit needed. If I knew people wanted it I would’ve saved the .svg.
In that case, I will compliment your skill in making a drawing look messy and care-free whilst still being legible, resulting in an assertive style that I appreciate
Thank you! This sort of graph is actually easy to do in Inkscape:
- Use the “calligraphy” tool for lines; default configs, quick strokes. If the stroke gets slightly off it’s OK, but if it’s really off simply redraw it (easier than trying to fix it). The dashed lines are simply sequences of lines using the same tool.
- For the text plenty cursive fonts work fine; I used First-Grader, but Lehn183, Berenice, and even Comic Sans would be good options.
- Red background: I found easier to start with a larger-than-necessary rectangle, and then shave it off by subtracting copies of other elements.
- If any object is a bit too detailed, or has rough edges, a few hits of the “simplify” tool (Ctrl+L) fixes it.
Covering my edge with some off color comedy a la Robert Evans to get people on my side.
