okay Google, how about this. I already pay for premium, but Im too lazy to disable my adblocker for just your site, can we just call it a draw and move on?
Youtube, I know you aren’t going to read this, but could you PLEASE make it clearer in your marketing that about half the premium sub goes to the creators?
I’m not giving you £12 a month, but giving you £6 a month and giving £6 a month to creators is something I can get behind. Like, you don’t need to be so antagonistic here, you can just lean into the “support creators!” aspect much, much more.
50% is ridiculous. Why not support the creators directly themselves instead of Google?
Time/effort, I watch a lot of channels and supporting them all directly would be a lot of work to set up.
Huh … Out of curiosity, if as an individual I made something that did it for you, how would you feel about it if I charged a cut, and what percentage would you feel good about? Let’s assume it works through Patreon or something, and I never touch the money directly?
I’m trying to build apps and things that I think would make people’s lives better, and I kind of hate money. I don’t like spending it, I usually don’t like getting it, and I really, really hate asking for it…but I’m quickly draining through my savings, and I think I’d feel better if people were happy to offer it to me because they want to support what I’m doing.
I looked into ads since that would spread a slight annoyance, and I’d keep them subtle and with no tracking, but they kind of suck…I was thinking of ads with a paid option with no ads and little extra features like turning Twitter links to nitter, and clean builds hosted on 3rd party app stores for free for people who care about privacy.
There’s also the subscription option, and I was thinking that was asking a lot, but after reading your post maybe I didn’t factor in the convenience
I’d like to hear your take on all of it
I think everyone donates sometimes, the whole system works because a chunk of the population is like you, and sees the content and immediately feels “I need to support this”
It’s always wild to me when I see fans hounding creators to hurry up and set up a Patreon
As well as what Mango said (I watch so many random videos, and I don’t think there’s a way to universally just give each one £1 or so), they are providing Youtube for free. Say what you want about Google, but Youtube does cost them a lot of money, and all things considered it’s a pretty well put together platform.
Yes, I’d like there to be a crowdfunded alternative, and yes I wish they weren’t so megacorpy and just let me download videos (it isn’t costing you anything if I watch a local copy!). But really, they provide a service and £6 or so is what I would consider a fair price.
hah. no. not on a platform where the lead thinks serving you a good dozen unskippable ads to test your patience is a fun little experiment. sure is the year of big platforms trying everything to get rid of users
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and you can bet that ill (ab)use that. might as well make it just a bit harder for them
I probably would have dismissed it without thinking about it, but now that I know I’m on board.
If I’ve learned one thing from the Reddit situation it’s that civil disobedience towards increasingly hostile social media is easy and satisfying.
Why the fuck do you pay for that shit?
Hah! I’d like to see them try. Revanced, newpipe, throwaway accounts, I’ll find a way around it. They can pry ublock origin from my cold dead paws.
I’m certainly not paying for youtube premium (and making a google account in the process). I’ll probably just stop watching youtube if uBO can’t get around it.
(Peertube speedrun?)
this could be peertube’s time to shine!
I’d love for that to be the case, but realistically many Youtubers see Youtube as a revenue source (which is a terrible idea, because Google blatantly doesn’t care about them), which Peertube can’t really replicate.
To be fair, for some youtubers, their primary source of incomes are Patreon and In-Video Sponsorships, which can be done on Peertube. After all, we’ve seen some youtubers, notably The Linux Experiment, use Peertube.
The biggest hurdles here would be user base. It’d be difficult to grow peertube’s userbase because most creators there rely on youtube as an income-- unlike reddit or twitter where it’s mostly unpaid social media stuff, so most would be scared to move to a new platform as it’d be too detrimental to rebuild their userbase.
That and the instance’s funding, which, you know…
While I am quite worried with the change. Honestly, if there’s a will there’s a way, especially for a site as big as youtube with a huge target on their back.
People would find a way to get around the whole ad-block thing, especially with 3rd party site scraping client like Newpipe (or its equivalent on pc) or Invidious (sure, they got a bit of dmca going on, but there will probably be another individual willing to retake the mantle similar to revanced when vanced were shut down).
Everything Google has done since the end of the, “Don’t be evil”, days has made me want less and less to do with them. I’ve been trying to scrub them from my life for a bit now, the only two things I still use being Gmail and YouTube. Though I’m pretty close to cutting those ties as well now. I just wish more the creators i liked weren’t only on there.
I refuse to disable my ad blocker… and it seems that many others won’t either.
Okay, new theory: Google, Reddit, and Twitter are taking part in a breakneck race to see who can become the most hated platform on all of the internet. Within just the past few days we’ve had this three-strikes test, Elon’s new 600-Tweet reading limit, and I’m pretty sure we all know what’s going down with Reddit.
So many social media services are going to shit right now, Reddit, Twitter, YouTube… This might be the time to shine for fediverse.
Either this is the year where people start to realize you can do things without a profit motive, or the fediverse is destined to be like irc - too good to die, too scary to grow
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…what? You’ve either been falsely accused or not. It’s not an opinionated matter.
