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For years now, U.S. police departments have employed officers who are trained to be experts in detecting “drugged driving.” The problem is, however, that the methods those officers use are not based on science, according to a new editorial in the Journal of Studies on Alcohol and Drugs (JSAD).
With marijuana now legal in many U.S. states, the need for reliable tests for marijuana impairment is more pressing than ever. Police can evaluate alcohol-intoxicated drivers by using an objective measure of breath alcohol results. But there is no “breathalyzer” equivalent for marijuana. The drug is metabolized differently from alcohol, and a person’s blood levels of THC (the main intoxicating chemical in marijuana) do not correlate with impairment.
So law enforcement relies on subjective tactics—roadside tests and additional evaluations by police officers specially trained to be so-called drug recognition experts (DREs). These officers follow a standardized protocol that is said to detect drug impairment and is said to even determine the specific drug type, including marijuana.
The process involves numerous steps, including tests of physical coordination; checking the driver’s blood pressure and pulse; squeezing the driver’s limbs to determine if the muscle tone is “normal” or not; and examining pupil size and eye movements.
But while the protocol has the trappings of a scientific approach, it is not actually based on evidence that it works, said perspective author William J. McNichol, J.D., an adjunct professor at Rutgers University Camden School of Law.
My eyes have been red ever since I got LASIK. 😵💫
squeezing the driver’s limbs to determine if the muscle tone is “normal” or not;
So basically if the cop decides I’m a weak pussy who skipped arm day, I’m high? Fucking WAT? This isn’t even pseudoscience it’s just flinging shit at a wall and seeing what sticks lmao, that’s dumb.
Oh cool this will target disabled people real well! My twin had like 10 percent average strength in their arms, so guess they’re just screwed!
Gasp!
A brethylizer test for alcohol isn’t “objective” either and all it does is create cause to test your blood.
But there is no “breathalyzer” equivalent for marijuana.
What do the mouth swabs test for then?
What do the mouth swabs test for then?
An excuse to arrest you
Metabolites I imagine, which can persist long after intoxication. They are illegal to be used in Maine
Police work is all pseudoscience. And they always get a pass bc they’re cops.
100%, look no further than ‘excited delirium’ smdh
As someone who is in a country without marijuana legalisation, what is wrong with the current laws? Is there a massive spike in deaths where the cause was attributed to marijuana use?
When we keep having these arguments about how our country could possibly legalise given our driving laws, I always point to the tonnes of countries that have already legalised and ask why we need to reinvent the wheel.
Oh, see, you’re under the impression that this is about public safety. It’s not. It’s about giving insurance companies an excuse to deny claims.
Well, it’s legal for medical purposes, and the current aussie protocol, AFAIK, is got THC in your system (cheek swab), you lose (and a blood test I think, happy for someone knowledgeable to jump in). Cancer chemo, no (legal) driving for you… This crap would be a step up.
Wow that’s fucking stupid.
The process involves numerous steps, including tests of physical coordination; checking the driver’s blood pressure and pulse; squeezing the driver’s limbs to determine if the muscle tone is “normal” or not; and examining pupil size and eye movements.
Steps not mentioned:
- is the suspect Black?
- does the suspect fail to defer to you as an infallible authority?
- have you hit your quota of arrests/citations today?
- are you in a bad mood? Do you need to vent?
Well, yeah. They’re only meant as a probably cause machine, not to actually make things safer for anyone. Same as drug dogs basically.