Remember, no matter how beautiful, morally righteous, or gratifying your strategy is, you should really look at the results
The “drive off the cliff” party vs the “drive off the cliff, but ever so slightly slower and also we’ll wave some rainbow flags I guess” party. I know who I’m voting for!
Now bombing civilians is compared to “an ice-cream”. Lemmy world admins should really do something about all the genocide denialism going on on their instance.
The ice-cream:
Enjoy your own medicine, loser.
Remember when Biden bombed Iran and promised to empty Gaza of all citizens? Oh wait…
Please read the link. Check the date. And then get cancer.
Piece of shit genocider.
Lol, I did. You know it’s 2025 right? Things have happened since then.
The US will always support genocide while it exists. There is no way out.
Fatalism is denialism
Not fatalist just realistic. Baring an armed uprising or collapse nothing will change.
Jerking off at protests and yelling online doesn’t do anything except make the capitalist class laugh.
suck my bolz
Gladly, always down for a good suk N fuk
Lol like “harm reduction” is going to save us.
Bad analogy anyway bc the effects are immediate anyway.
If we taxed everybody who didn’t vote there be a lot more can you spend your money voter since there is an immediate consequence for not voting.
I’m going to engage in local organizing. I feel like that’s much better and I’ll be able to protect my community and my family
You know you can do two things at once right? The purpose of harm reduction isn’t to fix everything, it’s to REDUCE HARM.
Lot of harm reduction the democrats did from 2020-2024.
Forgive me if I don’t want to give them another chance.
I’m going green or PSL from now on.
More like two options: one runs the bus off the cliff while the other sets it on fire. Sure, we’ll live longer in the fire scenario. Maybe we can even put it out!
But I’m still looking for the fucking exit.
Interesting… but the ice cream is supporting genocide. Some would rather die than vote for that. And I guess it could be argued that at least the people dieing by going over the cliff had a chance to vote. The ones dieing from genocide didn’t.
How’d that work out?
Except in this analogy, the cliff option includes a rider that they will genocide even harder.
I bet a lot of people living in Germany in the '30s said “I don’t do politics” too. Oops.
you’re on the bus
you’re fighting about who should drive
nobody’s talking about stopping the bus
the bus is rolling on brown people
Fixed that for ya
This is why the Democratic Party sucks so bad. The never offered people something to vote for. They didn’t even offer something harmless - they only ever offered to drive off a cliff more slowly. When in power, they never did anything against the DHS, the MIC, ICE, the Patriot Act. They didn’t even talk about fighting landlords, the bosses, the rich. The Dems even refused police reform, instead increasing budgets. The only thing the party elites ever fought fiercely is Bernie Sanders and the progressive caucus.
The Democratic Party is just as much to blame for Trump as the GOP. Stop blaming progressives for this miserable one party state - start holding your politicians accountable.
Stop blaming the broken system on your passive complicity with the violation of human rights for minorities.
You’d let it all fall down even if it meant tens of thousands of POC and queer lives being destroyed in the process.
Your accelerationism hurts us long before it ever hurts you, which is kind of one of the points of OP’s meme tbh.
There’s a lot of assumptions in your angry reply - and you should be angry. Just not at principled progressives, among them a lot of POC and queer folks, who did not vote for a party that never really did anything for them. You should try to overcome your naivete and accept the obvious - that this current development was inevitable with a Democratic party that is only different from Republicans in the sense that they keep up an act of civility that only ever applies to conservatives. Just look how vile the party establishment attacks Mamdani but had no problems compromising with, and clapping for Trump.
Stop attacking leftists and start forming coalitions (but this time NOT with blue conservatives), because the time when you had the luxury to do so has passed.
lmao you voted for genocide and you’re talking about human rights?
I voted for Kamala Harris, so no. I voted against it.
You voted for the VP of the administration in charge when this article was written.
You’re a scumbag.
At least I don’t call people I’ve never met and know almost nothing about “scumbags”.
Let me guess. You’re proud of the way you flippantly condescend and insult people?
All available options were pro genocide. You vote on the differences between candidates, not the similarities.
Don’t worry you will have a fair trial but complicity with genocide is no joke under international law.
Piece of shit
I think people like you deserve to get shot.
FPTP is the real winner here. It’s why we have Trump. Why can’t we vote for proportional representatives or ranked choice?
I believe there are three reasons our broken two party system stagnates and rots:
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Our slavery founders intended for our system to be a plutocratic republic that would resist change, not a democracy
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The purpose of every state is to maintain order which requires preserving itself
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Fixing our system would require our politicians to vote against their own interests, to risk their own power and status… This goes against every ideal that capitalists believe in. Capitalists believe that as long as they follow the rules, they are entitled to everything they can take. The fact that the rules were written by the rich to favor the rich is of no concern to them.
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The problem with this is that the choice isn’t cliff or ice cream. The choice is the cliff in front of us or the cliff around the corner.
Ice cream won’t fix our problems either, but I agree that a more dire comparison is apt. In either case, one option offers immediate and unconditional death and destruction, and the other option offers a little more time before the next crossroads of that sort. It seems intuitive to me that, unless one is suicidal (and on a national scale, that is, necessarily, advocating for the deaths of millions other than yourself, personally), choosing not to immediately drive the bus off a cliff is the unambiguously correct and necessary choice any time your choices are reduced to those two options.
Another day, another Pug punching left to cover for ranking democrat mistakes. Do you ever get tired or do they reward you for your allegiance? Perhaps you get left nice little scooby snacks.
“Punching left is when you advocate for harm reduction in elections in countries that haven’t fallen to fascism yet.”
What a bizarre notion of leftism you have.
This is kind of a good analogy for ranked choice voting, to be honest.
The bus analogy would have been better if the only two choices were 1. to run over a bunch of poor brown kids (Israel’s genocide) and being pissed on by billionaires before driving off a cliff OR 2. run over slightly fewer brown kids while being given moldy bread to eat.
If liberal democrats truly believed in democracy than they would fight to give us a multiparty system where people don’t have to vote for genocide just to prevent a more evil tyrant from taking power.
These kind of idiotic, condescending analogies are all that libs have to offer. That’s literally why they lose.
Keep upvoting tho. Feel good about yourselves. That’s the real win. \s
Both can be true, that the Democrats suck and that one should still vote strategically, especially if you’re gonna skip primaries (as most, statistically, do). The analogy holds, even if it’s fruity and won’t get anyone on.
The Republicans won because they have no problem swallowing bile; apparently thats the game now.
“Harm reduction is lib behavior”
Wow.
