Johnson claimed that Trump violently raped her when she was 13 at a 1994 orgy hosted by Jeffrey Epstein — the billionaire who was convicted in 2008 of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution and has been accused of having sex with more than 30 underage girls.
Johnson said Trump had sexual contact with her at four of those parties, including tying her to a bed and violently raping her in a “savage sexual attack.” The lawsuit said Johnson “loudly pleaded” with Trump to stop, but that he responded by “violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.”
Oh thank God it was explained away.
Anyway, here are 13 pages of links to Biden old lame shitposts by tankies.
Don’t forget to nuke the west!
It is amazing how there is no line that Trump/GOP are willing to cross for this man. I’ve never seen a guy make so many people admit they have no moral backbone at all. Everything they hate and say other groups are he is.
Criminal ✅
Con-Man ✅
Rapist ✅
Racist (They enjoy this.) ✅
Hostile insurrection. ✅
Criminal ✅Illegal Democrat Witch HuntCon-Man ✅Media LiesRapist ✅Fake NewsRacist (They enjoy this.) ✅Democrats are the real DEI racists.Hostile insurrection. ✅Peaceful protest.Unfortunately for them this is what that list is.
We live in 2 or more realities existing simultaneously due to the real scum of the earth: propagandists.
Yeah man, Trumpists and Propagandists, two mutually exclusive groups…
Most Trumpists have been duped by propagandists. It’s more comforting to them to believe the fake news talking points than to admit “their guy” is actually a vile waste of skin.
Whoops I missed the last line! My bad.
AHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
538 upvotes on an article from 2016. This rape allegation was known in 2016:
A 2016 lawsuit accused Trump, then a candidate for president, of raping a minor, but no evidence was put forth before the case was dropped.
but no evidence was put forth before the case was dropped.
The case was dropped because the victim received death threats from Trump’s fanclub.
The whole case was also really suspicious, like the article said. People, including the only reporter who got to interview the woman (over a phone call) wasn’t even sure if the person actually ever existed. Seeing that this is a fairly old article, I wonder if we got any new info on this.
But her emails. But his stutter.
Trump is a pedo with several decades of documented creepy behavior.
There. “Explained.”
He should probably withdraw
He should be thrown in prison and not even given the freedom to withdraw. He should be forcefully taken out, legally but violently.
Something something defend something enemies both foreign and domestic…
Yet, here we are, with the potential of him to be the next president of the country (again). :/
I think you mean the next king of your failed democracy.
and the first king in the idiomonarchy.
This.
100%Genuine curiosity, I thought we collectively agreed not to bring “This”, and other underwhelmimg comments, to Lemmy. Why does this “This” have so many upvotes? Why not just upvote the OP of the thread? Is it a demographic thing? Is Lemmy gaining enough popularity that the Upvoters are unaware of the history of Lemmy’s complaints against Reddit that led to (in our view as) its downfall? Or does “This” and it’s related Upvoters mean Lemmy bots and Lemmy farms are already rampant?
Edit: Or, looking at the post history, maybe this was bait for me and I gobbled it up. If DMs are a thing here and anyone has recommendations for positive and enriching communities, I’m keen to explore and find fulfilling engagement! Getting a bit disenchanted by Lemmy/the internet in general. Are niche hobby communities the only wholesome, silly spaces left on the internet? The irony is not lost on me that my post is negative in itself. Just trying to find a place with good people to feel a bit of belonging.
This.
democracy
Never was one. Kinda exactly what led us here.
While technically true, and for more reasons than you displayed knowledge of in the comments below (e.g., we really seem more of a “plutocracy”, where regardless of which side gets elected, the wealthy get their way outside of the legal system), it is also besides the point. We used to have more elements of democratic choices, like we were at least on the spectrum. Until Monday at least…
I’m not from the US but even that kinda offended me. To say that there has never been democracy in the US, clearly judged by your very narrow view of history is incredibly ignorant.
How old are you?
The US has always been a representative republic. For much of that time, it was representative of only a fraction of a fraction of the whole population.
how old are you?
"Uh… uh… eyes dart to the side 21 gulps.
Democracies will most likely always have flaws, I think it makes more sense to compare it to other systems in the same historical context than to apply a current vision of what a democracy should be.
Saying that the US isn’t a democracy because it’s a representative republic is like saying a shape isn’t a rectangle because it’s a square.
We aren’t a direct democracy. But in a representative republic power still stems from the people voting (ostensibly). Demoi (δῆμοι) meaning “peoples” and kratos (κράτος) meaning “power,” we get “democracy.” Power from the people.
That’s an ignorant, illiterate and pedantic puerile answer.
That whole “republic” bullshit is…bullshit.
The USA, as of today, is a FAILED democracy.
That’s an ignorant, illiterate and pedantic puerile answer.
Baby’s first thesaurus?
That whole “republic” bullshit is…bullshit.
The USA, as of today, is a FAILED democracy.
An argument I’m sure you’ll support in your next replies.
What point in history would you pin as American government being representative of it’s population. It was failed from the start.
If you really want to get into it, there was a great paper showing that by definition we’re much closer to an oligarchy, than a democracy or republic.
Pedantry got you here.
Think of the children, though. Those books are really dangerous.
The general consensus is that this lawsuit was fake and started by anti-Trump members of the GOP in 2016.
Sure
Here’s a current press item about the issue, dated Jul 04, 2024, Donald Trump, Katie Johnson Allegations: Everything We Know - Newsweek
The Murdochian consensus, yes.
As for the rest of us, anyone who’s bothered to look can see the situation fits trump to a T.
Allegedly.
The general consensus is that this lawsuit was fake and started by anti-Trump members of the GOP
And yet there is a case number and record of the case.
Technically, a case number is proof of guilt.
The lawsuit itself appears to be real, not fake.
The allegations may not be true.
It’s subtle, but there’s a difference
It might also be the allegations are 100% true, but the death threats and people trying to destroy your life and those around you might not be worth it. Look how Stormy has been treated when the Cult is out to get you.
Yeah.
I fear that my original comment might be misconstrued so I just want to make it (probably annoyingly) explicit:
- original comment: lawsuit is fake
- reply1: no it’s real there’s a case number
- reply2: oh well then it must be true
- my reply: well akshually the existence of the lawsuit is pretty clearly not fake (response to original and reply1) but yeah you’re right it hasn’t been tried and we don’t have all the evidence to show that its contents were true or not
FWIW I fully believe Trump did this and worse, but that’s just me
Case was real, one was dismissed and another dropped though. I think they’re saying that the accusation was fake. The article does make it sound really suspicious, but also it mentions that it could be real but just handled bizarrely.
So this wasn’t an official act? I guess it depends upon which SC justice you ask.
He might not have been the president in 1994, but I don’t have a source to back that up
Ask Trump is all.
Republicans: “That man is just LIKE US! He embodies every value that we hold dear! We should totally nominate him to lead our party.”
Why did they drop it though? If it was actually proven, then that would’ve been the end for him
Because she was getting death threats? They might have been credible and specific for all we know.
Money or lack of evidence.
Plus the death threats, the prospect of that court case defining one’s life, and being a very young adult wanting only to forget it.
I personally couldn’t imagine trying to overcome telling a court room of people what I can only imagine is PTSD inducing memories, and then on top of that receiving death threats from Trumps cult. I’m not sure one could have enough years of trauma therapy to overcome that.
She was 35 in 2016 when the suit was dropped, but valid points otherwise.
I don’t excuse the media for not talking about this, but I also don’t think it would matter if they put it on a 24 hour news cycle and shouted it from the rooftops. Or if they used the emergency broadcast system to send the story directly to every phone owning American. The cult of trump just doesn’t care. My (ugg) Facebook feed is full of people saying that felony’s don’t matter when it cost them some extra cash to buy groceries. I see people almost daily wearing clothing proclaiming they are voting for the felon. They just do not care about what ever he has done.
You’re right and it’s terrifying. I don’t see any way to fix it besides maybe forming a new non-fascist country
The media talked about it plenty. This story is 4 years old. How often do the expect the media to report on unfounded allegations by someone who dropped the case?
He Raped that LITTLE GIRL as an OFFICIAL Act of the Presidency!
offtopic: Other than Trump and MAGAts using it, such capitalization could look interesting. As something, indeed, characteristically American. And it might make texts more legible sometimes (I’m not joking), a bit like with Bionic Reader.
But, but Biden!!!
Biden sniffs hair and loves his son yuck!
/s
Both sides!!1! /s
Not here to start a fight. I get the annoyance at the whataboutism, but the list of allegations against Biden is much longer.
What list? Also quite literally Trump has been tried and was considered guilty of grapes. Literally admits to walking around nude children and touching women because he is a star
Not here to defend Trump. Nor imply he can be defended.
What list?
Not here to start a fight. Just saying that Biden haters have more on their list than your two items.
Them being more willing to make up a firehouse of random bullshit means nothing.
It does if you want piercing satire.
Faking whataboutism is very different to pretending your guy is whiter than white.
Supreme Court: “Presidential Action! Immune!”
Why isn’t this all over prime time news, including fox, so the christian voters can see it.
More importantly why aren’t the democrats and liberal establishment forcing this into the public eye. They could be using this to their advantage. Why aren’t we hearing about it as loudly as we should be. I’m not seeing it any where mainstream.
Fuck, biden should give a press announcement only for this.
Christians have a thing about fucking kids, remember?
(1) trillionaires (such as Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk) bought out the media - “prime time news” no longer exists, as it used to, now instead we have advertising segments meant to increase profitz
(2) the christians do not care - as evidenced by the fact that they already know. They just used him to accomplish their ends, of restricting abortion and whatever. Authoritarians just don’t think in terms like right or wrong, and rather what am I told to feel about this or that?
(3) also, yes they are THAT MUCH against the LGBTQIA+ “agenda” (of living life free from outside interference) that they could have watched the event happen live, heard her screams, and still vote for Trump. Some would still vote that way even if he had done it personally to them. It is an entirely different mindset, and we would do well to listen to it, rather than be surprised a few months from now (as we were before in 2016).
(4) if you want to understand it moar better-er, the best teacher I’ve seen is The Alt Right Playbook, by Innuendo Studios - I recommend starting at the beginning and going all the way through it, but the most relevant one to this discussion I think is this one.
TLDR: they know, they don’t care in the slightest - truly.
I have to upvote Innuendo Studios.
No need to hyperbolic with the use of trillionaires there.
Billionaires, 0.1%, ultra wealthy or any other term would have sufficed.
Thank you for the correction - it is Amazon that has 2 trillion and Tesla 1 trillion, but Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk themselves each have only ~0.2 trillion, so billionaires not trillionaires indeed. My words would carry more weight if I were more careful slinging them around:-).
Ya, it’s Amazon that’s 2T. Tesla is currently 785b after its latest delivery report, but did make it into the 1T club at its peak.
It boils down to this: To the GOP the idea that a LGBT person might molest a child is more important than the reality that Trump actually has.
I love the Alt-Right Playbook series. It’s so well done, but definitely not something I’d expect any Republican voter to understand, yet alone watch.
It is not meant for, nor aimed at, them. Rather it is to help liberals become woken up to the fact that conservatives aren’t merely temporarily displaced liberals themselves, who simply need a slight course correction and then they’ll be eternally grateful for being shown to be wrong (as we would in reverse), but rather how they think fundamentally, foundationally, in an entirely different manner.
And everything gets filtered by that worldview. Hence, even someone who was personally raped by Trump himself may still vote for him, believing not in “him” but in how he can be strategically useful to their cause of returning America to a state that never existed for us where an emperor can do whatever he wants, and somehow that’s what will make us great (again?). Just like how Russia is “great” and “strong” now - you know, in spite of literally all of the evidence to the contrary.
But lest my message get lost here: Innuendo Studios isn’t poking fun of conservatives for ignoring literally all of the facts that contradict their worldview and instead believing in their fantasical magical wonderland - rather, it helps liberals realize that we are the ones who are ignoring literally all of the facts that contradict our worldview and instead believing in our fantasical magical wonderland, e.g. where Bernie Sanders had some kind of a ghost of a chance at winning despite bucking the system of powerful elites, or that Hillary would win so easily that she didn’t even need to bother campaigning in the Midwestern states (beyond bringing hot sauce in her purse), or that people are so scared of Trump that Biden is a shoe-in despite not having earned people’s votes or being able to finish a sentence. We will receive our rude awakening, once again, and as always we will blame not enough people for voting or whatever tidbit lies easily within reach - anything rather than own up to the fact that irl reality is hard, and might involve some actual effort to understand, both others, and most especially ourselves.
You know that little boy near the end of Sixth Sense whispering “I see dead people, walking around like regular people - they don’t know they’re dead!”? Imagine instead that he said “we are the same, conservatives and liberals - other-group-person=bad but same-group-person=good, ignoring any inconvenient facts to the contrary”. This is why we’re fucked up the ass, and so easily led like sheep by the billionaires - bc we refuse to learn, from either failures or success, and instead merely tell stories to convince ourselves of the rightness of our respective causes, since we enjoy those calm stories more than the harshness and complexity of reality.
It doesn’t help that the same billionaires have spent decades dumbing down education and making higher education prohibitively expensive. All while cramming every single wedge issues under the sun into the national narrative to further entrench this tribal mentality. I know all of what you say is true, but it seems all but impossible to combat at this point.
It’s so hard to have any motivation to carry on in this world given a portion of it is fine with all manner of atrocities so long as “their guy” is “winning.” Why try to make anything better – be it more just, equal, enjoyable for all – when a good portion of the country (possibly the world) is so hell-bent on making it worse because they dislike a small subset of some insignificant problem?
Yesterday was the 4th. I just don’t know why anyone celebrated at all. What’s there to celebrate at this point when some will sell out their future, and the future of their own, for a “red hat?”
The article describes why the story feels to them so strange and suspicious. For example
It was the end of an incredibly strange case that featured an anonymous plaintiff who had refused almost all requests for interviews, two anonymous corroborating witnesses whom no one in the press had spoken to, and a couple of seriously shady characters — with an anti-Trump agenda and a penchant for drama — who had aggressively shopped the story around to media outlets for over a year.
Those shady characters — a former reality TV producer who calls himself “Al Taylor” and a “Never Trump” conservative activist named Steve Baer — had been mostly unsuccessful in getting the media to bite. There are a few very good reasons for that, which the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim succinctly summed up: Taylor and Baer have been really sketchy about the whole thing, and since the accuser is anonymous, journalists can’t do anything to verify her claims. The only journalist who has actually interviewed Johnson, Emily Shugerman at Revelist, came away confused and even doubting whether Johnson really exists.
Since a tape of Trump bragging about sexual assault came out in early October, a dozen named women have come forward with credible, similar-sounding allegations of Trump forcibly kissing or groping them in exactly the way he described on that tape. Johnson’s case was an outlier, with far more salacious allegations from a source that seems far less credible.
And it goes much further. I guess not many wanted to go hard on this story with it seeming a bit sketchy. Like they said in the end
It’s true that the allegation is explosive, andcould make voters see Trump’s many disturbing comments about young girls over the years in a new light. But it’s also very dubious and uncertain, and there’s no real need to promote a case like that when a dozen women have come forward with much more credible stories, using their own names and making themselves available to reporters for scrutiny.
I think evangelicals see this sort of thing as a positive.
They think they might get a chance to do it too
The body has ways to shut down violent rape.
It should be revealing with a story like this just how controlled the media has actually become. The vast majority of major media outlets have been slowly bought out and/or heavily funded by right-wing groups. The story should be everywhere, but you’ll probably only see it in niche news sites and maybe MSNBC. This is also why all we really see are negative stories about Biden regardless of what Trump does or says.
Well, as others said, it’s probably because it’s a 2016 article about a story that never got anywhere.
Maybe it was true, maybe it wasn’t, who knows. But it’s definitely not the best thing to give press announcements about, especially considering all the horrible stuff Trump has verifiably done.
Jimmy carter sold his peanut farm to be president. Dan Quayle spelled potato wrong and lost the presidency.
But rape allegations are fine, because it might not be true. He’s such a trustworthy guy after all.
There is a whole group of religious folks that are certain he is the antichrist and want to bring him to power so he can bring about the end of days, revelations, the rapture (where they will be saved), then after hell on earth, the 1000 years of peace…so…they are totally cool with his evil. It’s insane when you think about it from the position of nothing in religion being real.
I dont doubt it one bit. These people belong in mental institutions. Yet they’re allowed (encouraged?) to vote, as well as raise (indoctrinate) children into their ridiculous way of thinking.
I was one of those children. It’s a crazy life, and there are tons of people who live it and believe it.
Why are the dumb people driving the car?
This is why.
It’s not just Bill Clinton though. Many of the rich and powerful are vulnerable to the Epstein story, including Bill Gates.
