• angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com
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    9 days ago

    My question is…how do you eat it within 30 seconds? I get that this type of etiquette exists in many different cultures but while I have never eaten sushi, I don’t exactly get how that one is even possible?

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      8 days ago

      The context of this sign being in a sushi restaurant would be the key here. In higher-end, “omakase” sushi restaurants, you’ll be served a set of sushi piece by piece as the chef makes it in front of you. Typically you’ll want to eat it as soon as it is placed on your plate.

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    11 days ago

    And why not chew it off? Is it like in church where you’re not supposed to nibble your consecrated wafer?

    I agree with the other things, though. And I feel like I’m supposed to repost the old “The Japanese Tradition” video on sushi: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bDL8yu34fz0

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      11 days ago

      I want to say it’s some reason a long the lines of “it was masterfully creafted in such a way that the only best experience is to eat the whole thing at once, and to do otherwise is to insinuate a lack of respect”, with the disclaimer that I don’t actually know if that’s what it is.

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        11 days ago

        I think a good display of respect and that you enjoyed it, is to finish your plate. But that doesn’t mean you got to swallow everything at once?!

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          11 days ago

          As I understand it, sushi in this context is specifically made to be a single bite.

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            Yeah I was confused by that part, too. I have always eaten sushi in a few bites. Maybe I’m a big pale skinned dickhead.

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              10 days ago

              When getting sushi in the US it’s not uncommon to get, at least in my opinion, non bite sized pieces. Like the super deluxe roll with 15 things in it isn’t going to be bite sized. However, I don’t believe that’s typical when getting sushi in Japan.

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      10 days ago

      And why not chew it off?

      Last time I had sushi (about a week ago), I tried a place I’d never tried before. I ordered some sashimi and they were huge. If I’d eaten those in one bite each, it would have been like that game “chubby bunny”. But then again I don’t really know how authentic this particular sushi place was. Tasted great, though.

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      10 days ago

      Sushi is supposed to be bite-sized. In my experience this is not always the case in practice, but the idea is that you should just pop the whole thing in your mouth.

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      10 days ago

      Don’t chew it off because the rice will go everywhere. But if you’ve got a plate then your fine.

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    11 days ago

    What’s with the wasabi and soy mixing? I saw someone do that recently for the first time. He looked very confident at it and I assumed i had been doing it wrong all this time. Why is mixing a thing suddenly?

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      10 days ago

      My Japanese friend did this. I always wondered if you was meant to (I seen them do it on Jackass).

      Since then I just assumed it was the right thing to do.

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      I mix my wasabi and soy sauce every time. I also dip my sushi in this mixture rice-side down. I’ve never had anyone complain about this. If any sushi chef ever does complain I will just leave and never give business to that gas station again.

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      11 days ago

      Why is mixing a thing suddenly?

      Definitely not new, people have been doing this since at least the 90s, when I was a kid.

      I also know plenty of Japanese people who say dipping the rice lightly into soy sauce is the correct method, so take literally any “sushi etiquette” guide with a grain of salt.

      Eat your food in whatever way brings you joy. Anyone that says otherwise is a pointlessly-gatekeeping idiot.

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        I found that I liked bibimbap in the stone pot, and ate it a few times enjoying it, before one time one of the Korean waitresses saw me eating it unmixed as it had come out, grabbed my bowl away from me, squirted a bunch of the hot sauce into it, mixed it aggressively for me with my spoon, and then handed it back to me explaining that that’s the way to do it and I should do it that way from now on. And, some of my friends were in Thailand and had some kind of dessert come out for them that was in the shape of a snowman, and they had a member of their party who was a big fat guy, and when the food came out all the wait staff started messing with him that he and the snowman were the same shape.

        I feel like Japan got all the politeness for the whole region rerouted to them and everyone else just kind does whatever kind of elbow-jabbing food-correcting baldness-making-fun-of thing that comes into their head to feel like doing at whatever time and if you don’t like it you can deal with that on your own.

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          Asia in general is just much more “honest” than the West. If you’re fat, they won’t beat around the bush and say “you’re beautiful the way you are.” If you’re ugly, they won’t hide in platitudes, they’ll say “damn, it must suck that you’re so ugly.”

          It’s not malicious, these are simply facts that they don’t ignore. And, to be honest, I think it’s healthier in a lot of ways. The west has a ridiculously massive weight problem that we just completely ignore - or even actively support - because people are afraid to make anyone feel bad.

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          Hehe. Yeah, Bibimbap is Korean. So not exactly the same thing. And as far as I know the word literally means “mixing” and “rice”. I think it’s really tasty. And it comes pretty spicy in the restaurants I’ve had it (Which is far away from Korea.)

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        That’s true. On the other hand, frying a good piece of beef beyond well-done also isn’t how it’s supposed to be. It’ll just get dry and destroy the thing. And similarly, if you put a high quality piece of raw salmon on rice and then proceed to make it just taste of too much wasabi and salty soy sauce, makes the salmon kinda pointless. I’m not sure. People do all kinds of silly stuff with foreign food. Including mixing all the sauce, wasabi and ginger and stuffing it in their mouths… There are worse sins available to do, but I always wonder what kind of taste buds these people have.

        I mean I don’t care about that stuff too much. I just put whatever I like on sushi. I think that happens to align with what is deemed appropriate. It’s a bit boring without salt, but I want to taste the fish and rice so I use the sauce sparingly. In the end the important thing with food is that it ends up in my stomach and feeds me.

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          10 days ago

          I can taste the fish quite well with soy sauce and wasabi. The saltiness raises specific flavor profiles and the wasabi kicks as those profiles are coming down. Don’t put your mouth feel on someone else unless it’s identical (it’s probably not).

          The more important difference is the quality of the meal. I’ll do whatever I want with low- and mid-tier meals. I don’t know about you; my dining out budget isn’t regularly hundreds of dollars a plate so it doesn’t really matter what the chef intended they can’t express it that well at that price point.

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            10 days ago

            My budget for going out also isn’t that high. But I don’t think there is a strict correlation between price and tastiness of food anyways. Sure it’ll get more fancy the more you pay. And there is some minimum if you want some quality. But after that it’s not necessarily getting more and more tasty. At least in my opinion. I’m perfectly fine with the more affordable food. Some nice Tantanmen ramen every now and then, or those tasty rice bowls with tofu and minced meat. Or middle eastern food. That’s almost always nice. It’s not super cheap, but doesn’t cost an arm and a leg either. Unfortunately my favorite pizza and burrito place isn’t around anymore.

            There are some exceptions to the rule though. Some ingredients are just pricey. But I really don’t need those kinds of things on a regular basis. Sushi also isn’t something I get often.

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      10 days ago

      It’s just personal preference.

      I learnt it from a chef in Japan in 2009, and I assume he had been doing it for many years at that time.

      Generally, that’s something done at a sushi train restaurant where the dishes won’t have wasabi in them already. I’m guessing these notes are for a sushi restaurant where the chef prepares the sushi specifically for each customer, so if you wanted wasabi they’d put it in the sushi itself.

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      10 days ago

      It depends. In really high-end and authentic sushi restaurant, there is already wasabi between the fish and the rice. You are supposed to dip the fish side in the soy sauce only.

      On the other hand, it’s okay to mix the wasabi if the sushi is not prepared that way. People do this even in Japan.

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      People in Japan do it all the time. Ideally, the chef would get the proper amount of wasabi on everything and you wouldn’t need/want to do it, but that is not always the case. It is generally looked on more favorably to dab some wasabi on each piece rather than mixing, though.

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      10 days ago

      That’s not usually the case in a high-end sushi place. The chef will prepare your orders one by one and serve them out as soon as each is completed, so you will get one piece at a time.

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      10 days ago

      I too am looking for the answer to this. Like are you supposed to eat the entire roll in 30 seconds? You’re not even tasting it at that point. I’m hoping 30 seconds per piece.

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        10 days ago

        The guide is probably specific to nigiri sushi, that’s what is depicted at least. As the other commenter mentioned: in high end sushi restaurants, the chef will serve you individual pieces of nigiri sushi as you order them, so 30 seconds seems like a reasonable time limit in that context.

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      9 days ago

      It’s quite possible they simply make their sushi smaller, depending where you live. Americans tend to make things a size or two bigger than a lot of the rest of the world.

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      9 days ago

      Yea I was like WTF. I went to Japan for work for several months and when the guys at Yokohama office took me eating sushi that’s what they did.

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    11 days ago

    Don’t mix wasabi with soy sauce? So… chuck it into your mouth like a gumball?

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      11 days ago

      No, you broken chopstick, you dab a little on your sushi if you want extra. Moreover, most of the wasabi in the West is just green horseradish. Real wasabi is a root that comes from a river and tastes nothing like what we commonly find outside of Japan.

      The tradition of adding it to sushi remains even if the wasabi we’re given isn’t wasabi.

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        How bad is it if I enjoy mixing soy sauce and fake wasabi and shower it over my pieces?

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          10 days ago

          This feel like the whole “chefs are insulted if you order well done steak” thing. I get the sentiment, and you probably can’t show the limits of your skill with a well done steak, but the customer isn’t going to enjoy it more if you give them what they don’t want.

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        When I was in Japan, you could indicate when ordering whether you wanted wasabi and the chef would place a dab between the rice and the fish. My understanding is that real wasabi loses flavour very fast after being grated. Placing it so it doesn’t contact air helps to preserve flavour.

        I would not say real wasabi tastes nothing like the horseradish fake. You can tell the plant is still part of the horseradish/mustard family. It’s definitely a more “clean” flavour though. It’s pretty easy to tell when you get the real thing. The fake stuff looks like a quite intensely green uniform mushy paste. The real stuff looks a bit like grated ginger, but with a pale green colour, often with some variation in colouration.

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          Thanks for the explanation, now that makes sense. I feel like dabbing a small piece of wasabi on the sushi makes an uneven taste when you first chuck it in your mouth, that’s why I’ve always mixed it with the soy sauce so it’s spread evenly. Having it integrated into the sushi when it’s made makes sense.

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    When I lived in Japan (around 15 years ago, so etiquette might have changed since then) it was common to take the fish off of the rice and dip it in soy sauce, then put it back on the rice bed in instances where it was just placed atop the rice. Likewise, it was perfectly fine to mix wasabi into your soy sauce.

    I’ve done things that way since without any overt disdain, so I think these are generally good guidelines, but you can probably get away with doing some things your own way.

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    Unless you hand me a soy sauce pipette i’ll just dip the rice part in the soy sauce, thank you very much.

    And wtf is tiny tiny rice?

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      I think the tiny tiny rice is just sushi with very little rice. You can just see a smaller ball of rice under the fish bit.

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        9 days ago

        Sashimi is usually just fish without rice. Sometimes rice is served as a side. I think it is meant for people that order Nigiri with little rice. They should just order Sashimi.

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      Of course, the one that you make.

      But if you are going to have it from a chef who says so at their restaurant, show some respect to their culture or else spend your money elsewhere.

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          9 days ago

          They are offering you a service and they follow a certain etiquette to have it, which is part of the service. If you can’t follow it, don’t be a customer.

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            If the business is going to belittle me cause I like soy sauce with my sushi or eat it in two bites then rest assured they will not be earning my business regardless.

            This stuff gets posted for white people to pretend they are virtuous over. We are laughing at you.

            What if I said you would be disrespectful of american culture if you ate a burger or steak wrong? You would probably laugh because that would be insane.

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              You are assuming my ethnicity wrong, but I’ll go with it.

              If I go to a restaurant where they specifically say it is disrespectful to eat something in a certain way, I would respect that. Or if I don’t agree with it, I won’t have food at their restaurant.

              But I won’t go to the restaurant just to prove their way of eating is wrong. That is where your dumb attitude comes in. You are basically the equivalent of wearing clown clothes to a funeral just because you don’t agree with the etiquettes.

              Learn to live among people, or live in your hole.

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                Don’t disparage the noble profession of the humble clown. It’s a worthy skill and no other artist is diminished in that way. To do so is to disrespect the culture of Greek and Roman from which the clown originated. These people are likely much more highly trained and skilled than you are. Or even I am.

                Honk

                Kind of funny that of course you go off about respect for other cultures when it comes to soy sauce on sushi but then turn around and denigrate an entire theater culture of two ancient peoples.

                You’re the bigot.

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                  Ok. I see now, you are just talking crap with intentional misinterpretation just for the sake of argument.

                  I’m glad that you understood my point though, otherwise you won’t take this stupid tangent. Try to apply it in life.

                  This is my last comment on this. Have a nice day.

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            9 days ago

            If this disrespects your culture you have a fragile ass stupid culture that should be made fun of.

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              Or, a culture that values respect over individualism. To each their own, but to me willingly eating food wrong to belittle a culture isn’t “fun”, it’s just stupid and rude.