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          Yeah, no some guys blog stating his personal opinion is not evidence. We are just talking about things that are better than Firefox anyhow

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            It would be more useful if you had something more substantiative than “it’s a blog so it’s wrong”. Is there actually something in the article you take issue with?

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              They blog doesn’t give much of a reason of why it isn’t private. It feels more like “I don’t use this so you shouldn’t” mentality

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                How is Librewolf and Waterfox connecting to Amazon Cloudfront and a bunch of other domains on first boot and Waterfox having a sketchy privacy policy (article’s is out of date but the new one isn’t much better) a subjective opinion?

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                  For one, Librewolf clearly states what it does on startup. It has to update ublock origin and other threat lists. That is better than having out of date protections is it not? Just because it connects doesn’t mean it sends much data. Things need to be hosted somewhere.

                  For Waterfox the argument is less bad but Waterfox is about on par with a lot of other stuff. It isn’t going to be crazy good and it is no where near as good as Librewolf but it is better than Firefox and many others. I would rate it as half bad.

                  Librewolf is the arguably best privacy browser. You haven’t named anything better. It breaks sites occasionally but it does protect privacy and security and scores well on fingerprinting resistance.

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    Advertising can’t be privacy preserving. What gives advertisement value is the fact that it’s targeted.

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      Advertising signs next to a road are both targeted and privacy respecting, just like radio/tv.

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    This sounds a whole lot like privacy sandbox.
    You know, Google Topics.
    The thing nobody wanted.

    And honestly, reading through the article here, I don’t see many ways that it’ll be much better. If advertisements are matched on your local machine, then data is still being amalgamated somewhere. This is similar to Google Topics and Microsoft Recall, two things people complain about. For good reason.

    The online advertising industry is undergoing a significant transformation. With growing consumer concerns and increasing scrutiny from regulators, it’s evident that current data practices are excessive and unsustainable.

    It’s strange that Mozilla, a company that constantly positions itself as the ethical alternative to big tech, is saying “companies are being mandated out of unethical advertising.”

    Secure Environment: Data sets are matched in a highly secure environment

    Without any further information, this means so very little. Is it done locally? On their servers? Who knows.

    By combining Mozilla’s scale and trusted reputation with Anonym’s cutting-edge technology, we can enhance user privacy and advertising effectiveness, leveling the playing field for all stakeholders.

    When advertising is the business, your attention is the product. Maybe I’m being too unkind to Mozilla here, but it’s their press release and they can be as specific as they choose.

    Anonym was founded with two core beliefs: First, that people have a fundamental right to privacy in online interactions…

    This is the sort of meaningless fluff that you see at the front of every privacy policy, including that of the most invasive companies.

    … and second, that digital advertising is critical for the sustainability of free content, services and experiences.

    That’s the only way to offer free services?! What about donation-based models? Maybe Mozilla could have set up something like what Brave has, except not based around a sketchy cryptocurrency.

    In fact, GNU Taler exists for this very purpose.

    Anonym was founded in 2022 by former Meta executives

    Meta. The company known for loving user privacy.

    I was hoping Mozilla would finally shut up about putting AI into everything, but in retrospect, maybe they should go back to that.


    I’m reading through the Anonymco privacy policy. Some standouts:

    We collect… IP address, social media user names, passwords and other security information,

    Passwords?!

    …your browsing and click history, including information about how you navigate within our Site and Services…

    …We collect and verify resumes, employment eligibility, education, and employment history from job applicants. This includes information about your skills and qualifications for the position…

    Okay, great, they know how employable you are

    We may disclose Personal Information and any other information about you to government or law enforcement officials or private parties… to prevent or stop any illegal, unethical, or legally actionable activity…

    They are leaving the door open to disclose your data to private mercenaries to prevent… Pre-crime, I think.

    We use Google Analytics on the Site and Services to analyze how users use the Site and Services, and to provide advertisements to you on other websites.

    THEY USE GOOGLE ON YOUR DATA.

    This really sounds like Mozilla snapped up the first company with the right buzzwords that they could find, rather than looking for the best one. It sounds like a repeat of the OneRep privacy disaster, when they partnered with a corporation that sold people’s data and used their ownership of it to basically demand ransom payments for its removal.