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I’ve been insulted by web developers for saying this before : “If your website doesn’t work on Firefox, your website doesn’t work”
When developing photon I always end up with more issues on chrome browsers than firefox. and half of those are because of its god awful scrollbar. Please use an overlay scrollbar instead of shifting the stupid page around, chrome.
ugh yeah classic chrome am I right? (I forgot how to center a div)
This has been a problem for a very very long time
I agree with you that failing to support multiple browsers is an old problem, but I think the cause has shifted.
Back in the last century, supporting both browsers amounted to sniffing the browser and implementing the same feature twice.
document.layersvsdocument.allfor example.Nowadays I think the problem is different: we just don’t know what’s going on. The site is transpiled from TypeScript, written on top of React or Vue which drastically switches paradigm (bonus for Tailwind), packed with building tools, and the average dev has little understanding of what actually comes out. It’s a tall stack of leaky abstractions on top of the already tall one of the web. The dev is pretty sure it works on Chrome so they say it does work there, but it was not even a deliberate choice.
For most sites it’s a testing matrix issue. Most testing teams look at browser stats and choose how to apply their limited resources based on that. So the dev probably doesn’t even see the bug that exists for an old Firefox version as there’s no testing done on it.
If your website only works with Chrome, it’s not a website. It’s a Chrome site.
You didn’t design for the web. You designed for Chrome.
Chrome is awful in nearly every way one can measure a browser. Anyone still using this as they’re main driver in 2025 is technologically challenged.
It’s wild to see Chrome going from the browser to use if you had any tech sense whatsoever to being universally derided.
Universally derided
lol try looking outside lemmy. 90% of people still just use it and don’t care
I just design for IE6
Fuck chrome. Such a dogshit unoptimized spyware browser that now disables ad-blocking plugins
The problem for me is that the built-in translator is too convenient
Firefox has translation now, too, on both mobile and desktop.
And you can optionally add the Google Translate extension to desktop Firefox if you want. (It really is convenient, isn’t it?)
And you can always just plug in the URL of whatever page you’re trying to translate directly into https://translate.google.com/.
Real. Only thing i pop microsoft edge open for. Firefox’s one is too slow.
Pretty sure Firefox have that too
*For a limited set of languages. Until they add Japanese I won’t be getting much use from it, sadly.
I use 10ten (previously Rikuchamp) for Japanese. I don’t think it does full translation, but it gives thorough dictionary lookups (from WWWJDIC) as mouseover tooltips. Very useful if you’re trying to learn the language, but maybe not so much if you just want to read stuff quickly. I think it’s now available for every major browser, but I mostly use it on FF.
I agree that Chrome fucking sucks, but it’s disingenuous to call it unoptimized. Chrome and chromium-based browsers are as fast as or faster than Firefox. Although I agree that manifest V3 is horrible to the web as a whole and shouldn’t have been created.
It also eats up like 99% of your CPU
Have you used chrome or chromium in the past few years? Source?
I was exaggerating to make a point. But one of the main reasons why I switched to Firefox (about a year ago) was because it was eating up so much of my CPU.
That’s not necessarily true. Circa 2016–17 I frequented a website that worked in Chrome but not Firefox. This was due to Firefox at the time not implementing web standards that Chrome did. Firefox only got around to it in 2019. So naturally, the developer of the site was telling people to use Chrome.
This was due to Firefox at the time not implementing web standards that Chrome did.
Uhm, yeah, that’s what browsers do. There are somewhere about 150 web standards and some are hard requirement while others are soft. Blink has some implemented that Webkit hasn’t but Gecko has and that’s true for all three. Same for browsers.
Btw, the one with the most implemented standards is QtWebkit by far. It’s still slower tho.
Yeah? I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that. I’m saying it’s bullshit to say a developer has done a crap job when one browser doesn’t implement a web standard that is perfect tailor-made for their site’s use case.
Still a bad job tho, if his implementation requires things that aren’t common and has no workarounds in place.
If only one browser runs it, it’s not a standard
I don’t know the history of column span but the reason Firefox was “behind” on standards was because Google was pushing new standards through committee faster than competing browsers could keep up. Google would implement a new feature, offer it as a free standard, then get it through the committee. Because Google already had it in their browser, they were already compliant while Firefox had to scramble.
It was Google doing their variation of “embrace, extend, extinguish”
It got so bad that not even Microsoft had the resources to keep up. They said as much when they said they were adopting Chromium as their engine.
My website only works with Chrome, but it has to be a specific old version of it. And you also need to install some extensions. Very specific versions of these extensions. Few of them already removed from the store due to security backdoors.
I have a Docker image you can use to run Chrome though.
What version of Docker do I need to run your container?
At that point, just release your website as an electron app.
I like this template so much better than the Spider-Man one that people constantly use backwards.
But this one’s also backwards? I haven’t seen the movie, talking purely about the two photos.
In the movie the glasses let the wearer see the truth. This template is often used backwards but it’s correct in this case.
What’s the movie?
“They Live!” A guy finds some strange sunglasses that lets him see the subliminal messages hidden in all our print and media and advertisements. He can also see aliens walking amongst the population, disguised as regular humans!
Turns out, Earth had been invaded by aliens long ago and they’ve been keeping us under their control with subliminal messages for decades.
And the aliens definitely aren’t allegory for capitalists
