Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton’s trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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    2 months ago

    One shitty CEO can destroy a company the same way one shitty president can destroy a country.

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    Another L by Proton. Why would they even say it and just stop posting silently.

    Even if you agree with Proton’s positions it’s clear that Andy is just tanking the company’s image with such rookie leadership mistakes.

    Incredibly incompetence which makes you wonder how competent the actual code running everything is?

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      They did, yes.

      I’m assuming the next video to be released will be of the Proton CEO and Trump on on some fetish.

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      People on here like complain and will tell that he has his balls in his mouth when in reality all he did was show some hope after the Republicans appointed someone who has a track record of being anti-bigtech. I still think the way the situation was handled terribly, but to say that he is MAGA would be a hell of a stretch in my opinion

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        So it came as a surprise last month when Proton CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party in a post on X, declaring that “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.” When the tweet went viral, Proton’s official Reddit account posted a now-deleted comment stating that “Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”

        show some hope huh

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          Yeah so uh youre proving my point, he’s happy that the nominated person is more favorable to small businesses than the one previously nominated by the Democrats. Wether it’s true or false I don’t know, but this post (and his other posts form before and after the event) to me don’t suggest MAGA

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    2 months ago

    On Mastodon, Proton is held to a higher standard. That’s why they left for the dumb masses instead.

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    2 months ago

    every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it’s valve’s linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.

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      2 months ago

      The lesser company needs to change their name or add a descriptor. Proton Woken? Proton SaaS? Proton Supreme? Proton x GOP? Protonaz…

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    2 months ago

    Can you even use Reddit if you’re running Proton’s VPN? I know Reddit has been actively blocking other VPNs (eg Mullvad) for some time.

  • phar@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?

    • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl
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      2 months ago

      Vaultwarden is the opensourced version of Bitwarden. One of the employees of Bitwarden is allowed to maintain it in their own time

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    “limited resources” wtf? just copy and paste the content. I guess they didn’t like the backslash on Mastodon because of the CEO and Trump bootlicker Andy Yen

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        2 months ago

        Same on Bluesky actually. They can hide comments they don’t like in response to their posts.

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      This is even more ridiculous given they have a bluesky account and all they need to do is follow the bridge and their content will be ported to mastodon. Literally 5 seconds.

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    I can see a company not wanting to invest resources in a social media platform without critical mass. But for a company that itself is trying to gain critical mass, moving away from a similarly situated privacy focused platform is idiotic. It signals to potential Proton users that the company cannot be trusted and it’s very hard to recover from that.

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    Honest, stupid question: Why exactly is this such a big deal to so many of you? (I don’t use Mastodon.)

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      Proton recently got shot in the foot when one of their board members said some stuff that made it sound like he was somehow not certain that fascists are bad for privacy. The guy responded and clarified and made some good points…and still very clearly did not realize or did not feel it important to mention or even imply that fascists are very definitely bad for privacy. This is still post-record-scratch for Proton.

      So leaving what’s basically the only social media of the future, such as it is, and sticking it out in the garbage heaps, makes two data points that make a line that goes in the direction of “definitely going to enshittify”. It’s possible this could be wrong, because two data points isn’t huge, but these are also things that were extremely easy to get right, and require an oddly large amount of effort to fuck up like they have.

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    Looks like I’m leaving Proton. Fucking hell, not even a year ago I migrated from Gmail

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      2 months ago

      Learn your lesson and switch to a custom domain :) that way you will never have to change all your services’ email addresses anymore, when you want to switch mail provider.

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        Yeah, this is gonna be my next move I think. I was using Proton VPN for a while and just recently started migrating my emails there, then they started doing all of this.

        I wanted to self host my email anyway, but now I have no excuse. I’ve been burned by the last team I expected it to come from, I’ll be self-reliant now

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    If you’re looking to shake up your email provider in the wake of this, I highly recommend getting a custom domain name, whatever provider you choose. Cloudflare sells domains at cost. Get a not-embarrasing .com of your own, and then you can move email providers in future without losing continuity. Proton allows exporting .eml files, which you can then import into your next provider. Or just keep in cold storage and declare email bankruptcy. Once you have a custom domain, you can use unique emails for all your services by setting up a catchall address. This will at least impede credential stuffing attacks, and let you know who sold/leaked your address if you do get spam.

    I personally left Proton a month or so ago after the last bit of drama, in part out of principle, but also because their offering is just really expensive for my use case: I just want email, on a budget, with reasonable privacy. Plus I was tired of not having IMAP support and being locked into their clients. Moved to a Zoho business account (for now) and have been happy for the $12/yr. I already had a domain name, but they typically run <$20/year too.

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    What ashame, I thought the CEO should be poked in the eye with a blunt stick for his Trump support but I would’ve kept with Proton if the business and his personal views were kept seperate

    It appears this is no longer the case, at least proton provides a lot of decent services I don’t mind abusing for free now.

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    Funny how they didn’t make actual post on Mastodon, but just silently edited their profile to say they left Mastodon? That’s pretty cowardly.

    Yet another reason to not like Proton.