Signal lämnar Sverige om regeringens förslag på datalagring klubbas
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Den krypterade meddelandeappen Signal växer – nu använder till och med Försvarsmakten appen. Men regeringen vill tvinga bolaget att införa en teknisk bakdörr åt Polisen och Säpo. – Om det blir verklighet så lämnar vi Sverige, säger Signals chef Meredith Whittaker, i en exklusiv intervju med SVT.

Swedish government wants a back door in signal for police and ‘Säpo’ (Swedish federation that checks for spies)

Let’s say that this becomes a law and Signal decides to withdraw from Sweden as they clearly state that they won’t implement a back door; would a citizen within the country still be able to use and access Signals services? Assuming that google play services probably would remove the Signal app within Sweden (which I also don’t use)

I just want the government to go f*ck themselves, y’know?

  • ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.comEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Wherever a service with encryption exists any government in the world thinks they need to be the special child with the access to the contents.

    E2E with privately generated and held keys, have you published your PGP public key yet?

  • x00z@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    “Every house should break open a wall and build a door only to be used by the police whenever they want to. It will only be used for your protection ;)”

    • jamie_oliver@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      A rep for the Centerparti literally used this argument on the news today, they are very against it. It is just a proposal at the moment, even the military passovely criticized it as they use Signal for communication.

      Hopefully that’s enough for it not to pass but you never know. If it passes that’s a new low.

    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      With a universal key to every single door that is easily copyable and sharable, but not really possible to know if one bad cop decides to share it for $$$$

    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Protocols are much more difficult to create and implement.

      The barrier for technical ability and maturity is much higher. Which is why you don’t see them as often, and when you do see them they tend to suck, have massive gaps, or some other significant failing that prevents them from really scaling out.

      Building reliable and robust protocols with a hobby project is a nearly impossible task, it takes a lot of effort and a lot of minds over a long period of time to settle on the specifications. And just as long to actually implement it.

      Usually this requires some sort of funding and dedicated resources from the get-go. Which many of these projects lack.

      • barryamelton@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        “But doing things correctly in life is difficult so why try”.

        People still do and build thinga the correct way. See Matrix and Element.

        • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Matrix is a long fuckin shot from “doing things right” it’s not even funny. Have you not seen their funding crisis, the cost to host, and the general inability for it to scale affordably?

          It’s almost a poster child for what I just said. Protocols are hard, that’s a great example. Funding is hard, that’s a great example. Software engineering is expensive, that’s a great example. 🤦

          Also please don’t straw man me. I’m stating the facts, protocols are hard to make. If you want to make one, you should know this, if you want to hand wave the word, then you should know this.

          Being more informed isn’t defeatism, stop trying to be toxic and swing anti intellectualism as a weapon to shut down conversation. If you don’t want people to talk and discuss topics of interest, STFU and go somewhere that isn’t here with that sort of attitude.

  • Mio@feddit.nu
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    2 months ago

    Stop this!

    Would anyone accept if the government installed a door into your house that only they have the key to?! Just in case they need to come in and avoid kicking the normal door when I am not home…