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Better headline, “Disney toes the line for Nazi scum, and Walt himself was a Nazi sympathiser even after Kristallnacht. EPCOT was his fascistic wet dream. Fuck Disney throughout time.”
Never heard of EPCOT before, quickly scanned over the Wikipedia article:
what’s the problem of that theme park?
Before he died, the idea of EPCOT was to create his vision of an actual city, not just a park attraction. I read a quote from him about it that seems very much in the vein of Mussolini’s idea of fascism as the fusion of corporate and state power,
“There will be no landowners and therefore no voting control. People will rent houses instead of buying them, and at modest rentals. There will be no retirees; everyone must be employed.”
Aahh, see? Now that is more problematic than the article about a folkloric world theme park I read.
But it’s also not exactly new, company towns were already a sad part of our reality. Luckily we got over it, but rich people of course always want to get back to it.
We never got over it, the just use 401ks to control our futures now, and corporate owned housing is why rents are too high for us to do anything but work, eat, scroll, and sleep. If we stop to protest we’re in danger of homelessness.
“Openly” as if Christians aren’t the dominant cultural and political group in the USA
Yeah, “demonstrably” or “obnoxiously” would probably be much more accurate…
I dont see how this is news there are millions of christians its not insane for one to show up in a disney movie, the trans argument is usually they are like .001% of the population but get more representation than the rest, I think its all stupid either way and the ppl making shit should be allowed to cast whatever fits their vision and not trends
It’ll be interesting to see a character following the teachings of Jesus Christ, like
- Luke 16:13 “You cannot serve both God and money.”
- Mark 10:21 “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor”
- Matthew 5:39 “If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.”
- Matthew 5:44 “love your enemies”
So there’s no chance the character will be a capitalist, troop-supporting, neo-Nazi. Right?
One of my personal favorites:
- Luke 12:46-48:
46 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47 And that slave who knew his master’s will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes, 48 but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of [d]a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.
Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them. Told people to “love your enemies,” but clearly people you own don’t deserve that courtesy. He hung out with prostitutes, but was never able to disavow the practice of owning other humans as property? Kind of unacceptable imo.
The canonical Bible (the supposed ordained word of god) also include’s Paul’s further interpretation of Jesus’ teachings on slaves in…
- Ephesians 6:5–8:
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
Oof.
Do you think that Christianity became the religion of imperialism out of coincidence?
Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them.
That passage you quoted is not giving guidelines on how to treat slaves, it is a parable using slaves as an example. Not saying the Bible is totally anti slavery, the second passage being pretty disgusting.
All he had to do was say, “don’t own people,” and yet…
Not saying the Bible is totally anti slavery,
The Bible is explicitly pro-slavery. It was literally used by slavers in the 19th century American South to justify and continue the practice of chattal slavery. They printed “slave Bibles” where all mentions of anything related to “freedom” were removed, and the focus was on teaching obedience and submission.
What a thing for an “all-powerful” god to facilitate. Even if he were real and simply allowed his holy book to be used for such an evil purpose is enough for me to say “yeah, no thanks.”
I feel like these corps did a calculation and figured out everyone has an excuse to not boycott companies like Disney except right wingers who have become exceptionally good at the boycott.
In my experience those people will typically boycott brands as a group meanwhile my friends find every excuse in the book to support the major corps hurting them. Even aoc went to Florida during covid. And people wonder why they win.
Yup. Leftists Don’t have that insane person conviction. Dip shits need to learn to boycott
They continue to throw money at JK Rowling at every opportunity and they’ll do the same for Disney.
They continue to throw money at JK Rowling
YMMV, but in my ‘woke’ crowd, nobody’s buying that merch anymore. The only people I know still doing harry potter themed crap all voted rightwing.
The last thing I saw come through was the game. A few of the left-leaning gamers bought it but way less than baulders and starfield.
Hogwarts legacy was a major success. Almost a million players the first day of launch and that’s only on steam.
Even now, that 2 years old game has more people playing it than Avowed which just launched relatively recently LMAO 🤣. Again, that’s only on steam.
Iw we added PSN and Nintendo, it would totally crush it
This leftist has boycotted everything Sony since they bricked my PC with their rootkit in the early 2000s (and I really go out of my way to make sure nothing Sony related comes in my house, not their music, movies, games, electronics, nor their camera lenses) I only slipped up once in the past 20 or so years, when I purchased a second hand Sony Walkman mp3 player. Thing broke within 3 months of use, it’s now a constant reminder that I really need to keep boycotting Sony.
I’ve started boycotting Amazon (including but not limited to Kindle, Audible, Prime and Twitch) and Disney since this year.
But I’m only one person.
I have shown myself to be capable of long term boycotts and I don’t intend to let up. I’ve added Amazon’s websites to my Pihole’s blacklist.
But I also don’t pirate their stuff. As far as I’m concerned their TV shows and movies and such don’t exist on this planet.
Leftists are already trying to fuck megacorps over, why would they try and placate them?
Leftists are already trying to fuck megacorps over
Where?
Gestures broadly at Lemmy.
Lemmy is a niche of a niche and there are more centrists (liberals) here than leftists
Everywhere?
The whole idea of leftism is to deconstruct hierarchical power structures.
mega corps are the current incarnation of exactly that.
lol…. Yeah. I’ll bet those protests are really hitting them hard. People shouting at buildings have always been historically successful!
Pray-tell, I remember back when Vietnam ended just because people yelled at a bank in my home town. So proud of those kids!
Religion or LGBT is a false dichotomy and shit like this just fuels division.
Fuck you Disney
Really hope Jesus makes his comeback via an appearance on RuPaul. The bible does say it will be unexpected.
The stories in the bible happened long ago. There arent any prophecies reaching into our age.
(Actual inquiry, I don’t know): Really? There is no rupture or some sort of apocalyse in the new testament?
Nah, the thing that Christians claim is the antichrist was the description of Nero.
As someone that doesn’t belive in the bible, the whole antichrist being nero thing doesn’t add up. Nero reigned from 54 AD to 68 AD while the book of revelation, the one with the antichrist prophecies and that was published in 95 AD. I’ve heard the explanation that it was code, but why would they have to have code for someone that died 40 years before they wrote the code?
68 AD to 95ad is 27 years why would you count from the start.
The word antichrist isnt meantioned in the bible, only John does mention it.
Rainbow capitalism, I’ve looked into LGBTq+ forums, subs it hurts the community and movements more than it helps them
Yup. Disney doesn’t stand for anything. They just pander to wherever they think the money is.
Priesthood was a religious answer for gay men historically, before more modern sects that are openly accepting. The modern non-denominational Christian churches are just cancer.
Well I did feel bad about pirating Agatha All Along but not anymore.
Never feel bad about pirating, son!
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Come on 😮💨
She’s very obviously a woman, don’t call her “son.”
Why tf am I getting downvoted?
I mean I know a dude whose initials are KD[last initial]. He doesn’t like his feminine first name, so he started going by Katie. KD. He just can’t win.
Yes, but you can clearly see a woman in her profile pic, combined with a girl’s name, on a trans instance, and if any of that gives you pause enough to check her profile, you’ll find it says, “sapphic. hater of capital letters. bunny and cat mum.” Just because some random guy somewhere goes by KD does not make it ok to misgender someone who is very obviously a woman.
Whoever downvoted this, come out and say it my face, coward. Fuck transphobes.
Anyone browsing on most mobile Lemmy apps does not see profile pics btw, so people might be downvoting because “she’s very obviously a woman” is in fact not at all obvious to mobile users.
I did not downvote btw. Am using Eternity Lemmy client.
There’s still the username. And the proper response to that situation is, “Oh, oops, I didn’t realize, let me edit my comment, thanks for bringing it to my attention.”
If I can figure out a way to view who downvoted, I will be tagging them to call them out and name and shame. I find it completely inexcusable. If they didn’t know they were in the wrong, they wouldn’t be afraid to show their faces and explain themselves.
I did vot you down and I’m also the guy who started all this.
You’re not wrong. You’re just an asshole. That’s why people vote you down.
I really want to down vote you because of your aggressiveness and off topic ranting but I’ll ask instead what about their username should tell me the user’s gender?
lol… you really need to pick a better hill to die on than this- “who downvoted me?! My words need to be respected!” crap. I downvote you all the time when I see you trying to get under people’s skin- which is more frequent than when you’re not.
You aggressively argue with people and refuse to accept that others see the word differently than you do. And both your modlog and your comment history proves this.
How do you see the world differently to them? Go ahead, say it
How?
Let’s see… I don’t throw temper tantrums when people downvote me. That’s one difference. I also don’t give a shit what people online think about me enough to whine that people disagreeing with me. And lastly, there’s little I find less important than what method someone uses to type shit on an Internet forum.
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Most apps don’t show profile pics unless you actually go to the profile.
Then, genuine question, why do you use them?
Because I don’t care about your profile picture.
im not really surprised movies and shows have always been careful about offending christians even to the point of disrespecting other religions and mythos in the process.
What if I am offended by Christian characters?
Corporate “allyship” at its finest.
Disney will be happy to fight for the rights of LGBT people… When it’s profitable and will not actually show up to the battle until AFTER the oppressed person has won.
Corporate “allyship” was all for show.
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Given the nature of the show, and the fact it is set in modern day America, it would be stranger if it didn’t have a Christian kid in it.
Removing any references to being transgender is pretty shitty though.
Depends where in American, where I’m at it’s more unusual to be publicly Christian than publicly non-religious
I don’t trust any business that advertises itself as run by Christians.
Jesus had a big rant about hypocrites making a public show of their religion, and told them to go pray in their closets instead.
How many people are in a softball team? You’d expect at least one or two, surely?
Eh, these days? I know hundreds of people in my state, only two of them are admittedly Christian and they’re not loud about it.
This is the first openly Christian character to feature in a Disney film since 2007’s Bridge to Terabithia.
So it’s not really the first then, is it?
An exclusive poll for Newsweek conducted by Redfield and Wilton Strategies in July found that 34 percent of viewers disapproved of Disney’s attempt to add more LGBTQ+ topics to its content.
This I never understand. If Disney is a for profit company, why would they not listen to their majority? Aren’t they leaving money on the table like this? “Well, because of Trump.” Yeah but how does that matter, specifically? (The article does not go in to detail about that) Is Trump going to compensate them for it??
This article isn’t very well written. Many such cases, sadly.
Isn’t Captain America Christian too? Like, he openly says there’s only one God, he goes to church etc.
I’m not listening
- Disney, probably
The majority doesn’t approve of more LGBT characters either, it’s just Newsweek being intentionally misleading.
In summary, 36 percent disapproved in some form, 34 percent approved, while 31 percent neither approved nor disapproved, or didn’t know how they felt.
I’d venture the majority of people prefer a good story. When you shoehorn any elements into a story it distracts the audience. The Star Trek Beyond Lt Sulu scene is a good example it did not provide any character or story development. Many of the star wars shows have similar elements which hurt an all ready damaged story.
Well now I can say Disney is woke. They woke up to kiss the ring and bow down to a fucking shit lip.
Eww, yuck. I’ll pass on that one.
*Disnep
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Any word on whether they’re going to start telling good stories?
