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Summary
The White House has directed the State and Treasury Departments to draft a proposal for lifting some U.S. sanctions on Russia as part of Trump’s effort to restore ties and end the Ukraine war.
The proposal could ease restrictions on select Russian entities and oligarchs, though it’s unclear what the U.S. would receive in return.
Trump has signaled openness to sanctions relief despite previously threatening harsher measures.
Talks between U.S. and Russian officials have intensified, with economic cooperation, including rare earth minerals, emerging as a key topic.
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This is so wrong. I hate what we’ve become. As an American, I’ve never been proud of what this country has done but I’ve never been THIS ashamed. I feel like a joke.
There’s no more room for nuance. We (that is, our government) are the baddies. Straight up.
So let’s stop beating around the bush at what has to be done, violent revolution is the only path to freedom.
I’m approximately 2,700 miles from DC, so I’ll need several days’ notice for when the violent insurrection will be.
Can it wait a few more months? I need a bit more PTO. Rent doesn’t pay itself.
This is kind of an underrated sentiment. I think a big reason there aren’t more protests and revolting is because we really can’t afford it. The financial impact on each individual can be significant. Employers don’t support time off for anything of a political nature, not even voting.
I don’t believe this situation isn’t intentional. It seems that countries who take two hour lunch breaks and don’t let their jobs dictate their entire lives are far more likely to protest en mass.
Thing is, saving that house now by forsaking the country could lead to that same door being kicked down by the feds in just a few months for that liberal Facebook post you made calling trans people human. Get in the Gitmo van.
There is plenty of room for nuance, there’s just no nuance to be had.
To help Putin, he is bankrupting USA just like how he bankrupted his casinos.
So rise up against tyranny.
I have nothing against americans, but this is Hitler level bullshit and if americans dont wake up after this (like revolt level wake up), they are no better than today russians orks or past german nazis sympathizer. Until they get their shit together by getting rid of this orange shit pile, americans can just go fuck themselves…
I agree. As an American I didn’t understand how this could happen. However, and this excuses nothing, but read the book “They Thought they were Free,” by Milton Mayer. It explains how normal people were wrapped up in Germany. It was eye opening.
Ordinary Men is another very good one. It uses testimony from after the war to establish the story of a real life German police unit and their commander who were ordered to start mass killing.
bUt wE hAvE oUr oWn PrObLeMs. tHiS dOeSn’T cOnCeRn Us.
Fucking shameful and depressing. Makes me realize that slogans like “never again” are not at all realistic because they’ll always be idiots who think shit doesn’t concern them, until it does.
Loki: “In the end, you will always kneel.”
Old German Man (refusing to kneel): “Not to men like you.”
Loki: “There are no men like me.”
Old German Man: “There are always men like you.”
–The Avengers (film)
I’m trying hard not to accuse America per se but recognise that this is Trump and his administration being driven by Kremlin interference and direct involvement.
I cannot see the American people putting up with this nightmare but I fear it’s not hitting home as it should.
Ukraine is just a part of a bigger picture where Russia is actively interfering with Western politics, business, governments, elections and referendums with the aim of bringing down the West.
With the traditional USA out of the game Russia will move on to eastern Europe. In the meantime China makes it’s move on Taiwan and others in the region; the Trump USA taking Canada, Greenland, Western Europe; the middle east being carved between Russia and Trump USA.
It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets any better whilst Trump is in power.
I hadn’t thought of it that way before but I think you nailed it. History won’t care who you voted for.
I posted this on a Reddit thread, but we have become very dependent on certain technologies. The resistance is taking a while to get warmed up. One of the biggest issues is our communication channels used in the first administration have all been compromised. Twitter, Whatsapp, and Reddit are all being used against us. There may never be a hashtag protest again.
No one thinks this is normal or okay. But there is an air of fear that the secret police tech bros are listening.
FYI if everybody no longer pay their taxes and no longer work, its game over for the government in less than a year and in a peacefull way… (Excluding food, energy and health sector of course, and people will need to be able to rely on their communities exclusively, but lets be honest, in the US its already the case…)
Imagine a COVID but as a national and perpetual strike/protest. Even with a third of the population doing that, it would work.
Even though the EU has been funding Russia with fossil fuel imports? Kinda feels like we’re the only country that was willing to make a stand and did it alone while Russia’s GDP rose last year.
You know what would help end the war in Ukraine? Letting Russia keep all their money and having no repercussions for their actions. That should do the trick.
Well it will help end the war, just in Russia’s favor
In Europe many leaders still claim USA is our most important ally. I wonder if they say it.hoping it will make it true, or if they really still believe it?
They’re still in the first stage of grief.
They say it because saying the truth (that they’re an enemy of all democratic countries) is seen as too risky when they remain so intertwined with other countries worldwide. There are US military bases all over the world, for example.
With the number of nukes the US has, and the impulsiveness of people in charge, it might be safer to keep calling it an ally
We don’t call Russia an ally just because they have nukes.
If USA lift sanctions on Russia, they are working against NATO interests, and against a world of law, and against democracy.
That cannot be an ally of Europe, and we shouldn’t sugarcoat it.Here in the UK people have been asking privately if Trump is a Russian asset. It is now being asked openly in the mainstream media.
He is and has been for decades, well before he became president the first time.
Seems to me very likely that he is, why else would he have such a hard-on for Russia?
Why else would he blurt so much bullshit about Ukraine being corrupt, and Zelenskyy a dictator? When we know Russia is very corrupt an a totalitarian country!
There are dozens of examples of similar bullshit comments by Trump, Musk and JD Vance. They are all in it, USA has been taken over by Russian and/or Chinese agents.
Many EU leaders like to pretend things are just fine when they’re not because it’s easier than dealing with the problem. We got lulled into a false sense of security the past few decades and being woken up so rudely seems to be difficult for our lazy asses.
Thank you, comrade krasnov. Go to hell, asshole.
And another piece of evidence that Trump is nothing but a Russian agent in the Oval Office. When will the US media finally start to ask about this?
they did that a long time ago
In a few small outlets. I have not seen a big headline on the front page of a national paper, or an opener on the nayor TV networks news.
Media? What about the fucking US military and intelligence services?
They don’t seem to care about their oath about “enemies foreign and domestic” anymore.
When Ukraine’s president surprisingly shifted towards Russia, the people engaged in civil disobedience until there was a new president.
What will the US do?
Nothing. 50% of the country loves their strongman president more than freedom or common sense
Less than a third of eligible voters voted for Trump.
“In reality, there is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard’s vote.”
~ David Foster Wallace
60% of Murca voted for him.
And the other 50% thinks that the best avenue for social change is to attack people who don’t like the latest Disney movie.
Oh look, another Trumper obsessed with culture war issues that no one else cares about… I’m so surprised.
Exhibit B.
You’re framing that as a difference in taste when in reality it was a difference in having shitty bigoted views or not. Haven’t you fuckers muddied the water enough?
Exhibit A.
A US backed coup is not “civil disobedience” lol
kindly, Fuck off.
A couple of suspicious sounding phone calls intercepted from an embassy, when every embassy in the country was having their own discussions about their preferred outcome to the collapse of a government, do not influence millions of Ukrainians who know their own country and government, to take to the streets in a riot over being betrayed over something they voted for.
I mean, where is the guy hiding right now? Where is Zelensky?
Sounds like thats the Ukrainian SSU’s business, and no one elses.
Is this being reported in the US in the mainstream media?
The possibility of a US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.
a lot of Americans acknowledge a coup happened about a month ago
A coup? This is what Americans voted for.
Possibility? … this coup is more like watching moss grow over concrete … it’s taking time but it will soon cover everything and everyone is making it as hot and moist as possible to speed up the process
The possibility of a US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.
A US coup is becoming more real everyday with the Trump administration.
It doesn’t look like it’s being reprinted yet. Reuters just published the story about two hours ago.
Kick the US out of Nato and any special status in the UN. Sanction the everliving fuck out of everything US. This will destroy the retirement I was at least partially expecting to get, but fuck it.
Trump is such a master negotiator. Betray our allies, threaten to leave the UN, stop all cyber security operations against Russian, lift sanctions against Russia that are working, block Ukraine from joining the UN, and say that any chance of ending the war has to result in Ukraine ceding stolen territory.
All before negotiations even start. What a mastermind.
Ukraine is part of the UN. I think you meant NATO.
You are correct
I would like to see mass sanctions on the US. Isolate the crap out of them.
neither of those things are possible.
DJT is where he is, because of legalese. and as far as alliances and memberships to intnl groups go, the US is untouchable.
America is gross
America is stupid and selfish.
America is stupid and selfish.
The U.S. has been propagandized by the rich via corporate media consolidation (AKA Manufactured Consent) since at least the 1980s when the Fairness Doctrine was repealed by Reagan… earlier if you consider folks like JFK - who (as a member of a dynastically wealthy family) did things like drop the marginal tax rate from ~90% for the insanely richest people in the country to ~60% to start the tumble of budget shortfalls ultimately leading to the ease in which dishonest grifters are more easily able to convince the desperate and unheard to put their faith in demagogues offering them scapegoats in place of the actual culprits for their socioeconomic plight.
That is to say, that :
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IF America is stupid, it is the fault of the ultra-rich once again - as they did in the 1860s with railroad barons, and 80 years later in the 1920s with the industrial age robber barons, and again as they’ve done now with tech-bro barons - need to be reminded that peace is only achievable on a level playing field, wherein they pay their goddamn fair share of taxes to provide a stable, safe, clean, healthy society where our bountiful resources are not made artificially scarce for all but the very top of the wealthiest classes.
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IF America is selfish, it appears so only because those at the bottom are shown - by example of those at the top - that if they are selfish, they can “get ahead…” or at least “get by.”
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I fucking hate it here.
If the US does lift sanctions on select oligarchs from Russia, I think the EU should consider sanctions on select oligarchs from the US.
I happen to know one such oligarch, Elon Musk - he’s associated with wielding illegitimate power, manipulating social media and interfering in elections (both national and primary) using wealth.
How about freezing his assets? I don’t think he has taken the prudent step of collecting all his money and stowing it under Donald’s presidential seat.
Sanctions (tariffs) Canada, Mexico, and China. Removes sanctions on Russia. What the fuck?
From Europe it’s crazy seeing the USA getting so close to authoritarian regimes, and so far from democratic ones.
Its not that crazy. It was founded on the principle that a select few have lots of power.
Russian agent doing the Russian agent things.
Word has changed since cold war u know.
Trump is so l still a Russian asset. Doing russias bidding
Commenting on every post licking trumps balls
I disagree with Trump on many things, just not Ukraine Russia
“I put at least some minimal effort into looking like I don’t just fantasize gargling their balls. Even though I do.”
The only thing that hasn’t changed since then is Russia
This is a total lie. there is no sense to keep funding stupid usaid propaganda - it keeps population dumb
it keeps population dumb
You mean dumb like all those Trump Musk supporters ? Or dumb because educational programs have been defunded, and fed by social media and classic media controlled by the rich men having power ?
Which has nothing to do with anything, but I bet it sounded cool in the goo in your numbskull.
Yes, but Russia (or at least Putin) hasn’t.
Yeah, note instead of Russia being a communist authoritarian hellscape, it’s a capitalist authoritarian hellscape.
Very different
Isnt that what us is? Capitalist authoritarian hellscape?
And red voters will still find ways to deny that he’s Putin’s little bitch boy
Whether or not he’s a Russian asset is ultimately irrelevant. All that matters is that he is acting like a Russian asset. He’s doing everything a Russian asset would do. So it doesn’t actually matter if Putin has kompromat on Trump, because he is clearly willing to act like an asset even if he’s not.
