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Summary
DOGE staffers Tyler Hassen and Bryton Shang tried pressuring the Bureau of Reclamation to open a California water pump to aid Los Angeles during January’s wildfires, though the system couldn’t reach the city.
When denied, they flew there to do it themselves but failed due to maintenance and access restrictions.
Critics called DOGE a “slapstick operation of 20-somethings they’re seeing as whiz kids but have zero knowledge.”
Trump later ordered dam releases, flooding farmland. Critics called DOGE’s actions reckless and uninformed.
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They’re not even old enough to rent a car. Wtf
They should have been arrested.
They should have
been arrestedhad the absolute shit beat out of them.Our boys in blue are fully capable of doing both.
The Sheriff has had to issue a memo in my county because the deputies are openly fantasizing about murdering Musk and his fuck boys. So yeah… Something to look forward to.
F*cking idiots.
Fucking idiots.
Fucking dumbasses.
Fucking dipshits.
Fucking fucks.
Dicking dicks.
Fuckity fuck-fuck
Most of us, raised by Hollywood, imagine critical infrastructure has guards and ID checks. Keys. Guys with machine guns. The last 10 years, it’s pretty clear the major controls are just that no one tries. “I’m from DOGE” is going to be the penetration tester’s go-to social engineering hack for the next four years. Just walk in, press the Big Red Button, and leave.
This instance shows that it is, in fact, how that works, at least in part:
Shang wasn’t an official federal employee yet, meaning he couldn’t access the pump.
No credentials, no access. Most infrastructure like this has physical security like fencing, padlocks, steel doors, and so on. I don’t know if there’s a break-in alarm, but even if not, they’d still have to figure out how to access the pumps and turn them on. They’re probably computer-controlled, so you’d have to get access to the computer system. I’m sure you could override it on the PLC, or just plain hotwire it, but that takes a whole new set of skills.
I would not be the least surprised if the sum total of the “l33t h4x0r skills” of these teenagers boils down to knowing the least bit about whatever the latest Javascript frontend framework is, combined with some LLM to help them with it…this is what happens when a whole lot of idiots think that being young == being tech-savvy.
People hand the tech decisions over to complete morons with no understanding and so much Dunning-Kruger that they not only don’t know shit about something like PLCs, and may not have even heard of them, they’ll be too fucking arrogant to ask people that DO know, because, gosh, they might be OLD (i.e., > 30 years old) or something.
“Move Fast and Break Things” for government translates to…
Move fast to give billionaires gigantic tax cuts and break Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
I’ve got some bad news for you…
If it is locked, the key is usually nearby, and it’s usually the cheapest, least secure, possible lock to buy.
While probably true, morons like these two would be unlikely to get past even those measures.
Uncensor your fucking shit for the love of fuck
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It’s fortunate that they’re so incompetent that they couldn’t do any damage.
The damage was ultimately done anyways: They ordered a shitload of water released and flooded farmland with it. Now the state no longer has that reserve for later, when it is actually needed.
They were never out to help anyone, this was sabotage all along. They knew it wouldn’t help and they didn’t care because that was never their goal.
That is a separate incident. Perhaps I should have said additional damage.
Ohhhhh, this makes sense now. The wanted to decimate California out of spite. Now I get it.
Yes, the fire was already nearly contained and also the initial water problem wasn’t because of water shortage, but because the infrastructure wasn’t able to keep up the demand.
This video explains the problem https://youtu.be/Y1N2BwcAT-s
The water that trump released, won’t even get anywhere close to Los Angeles, it goes (went?) to the ocean 100 miles away from the city.
Those dams were build to prevent floods in the area in spring, and are used to provide water for farmers. So this move could cause a food shortage.
This water can’t be physically used by Los Angeles, because it isn’t even physically connected. Trump thinks that because the dam is on top of the map, it has to go down.
I wish I had the confidence of a DOGE tech bro even for a week.
Flooded farmland, provided 0 help to the wildfires, and now there’s less water reserve for the actual agricultural season…
Genius.
Genius.
Deliberate, treasonous sabotage.
Just one more thing Trump did to bring up food prices. Why did people vote for him again?
Because a sizeable chunk of our population are morons.
I’m not clear on why they doubled down on this, when it was apparently clear that the water was not going to go where they wanted it to go?
Because they are idiots. They assume that because they might be good at one thing that they’re good at everything.
It’s like:
Everyone sane: “This kills the patient. Flat out.”
Them: “We’re willing to take that risk! Do it!”
You think their goal is to help?
Well, I was thinking that at the very least they did not want to broadcast their idiocy, but clearly I need to reevaluate.
Was it idiocy or malice?
Idiocy can explain a lot, but malice makes everything they’ve done and everything they’re trying to do make a lot more sense.
These acts are intentional and, even if these kids don’t understand, the people who are calling the shots do and these are not mistakes (even if they claim otherwise); They have been planning this for years and have the backing of multiple billionaires who are clearly more than happy to facilitate all this.
This is why “Hanlon’s Razor” is kind of bullshit. People should stop using it because, at the very least, it does not apply anymore.
I’m pretty sure Hanlon specifically mentions that it must be “adequately” explained, and these events are not adequately explained by stupidity alone.
It’s a general rule, not an absolute law, generally I think it should be the default assumption but past a certain point, it has to be intentional.
Because the water would go where they want it to go. You just don’t understand where they want it to go or why.
You think they want it to go to where the fires are. That’s wrong.
They want it to go into the central valley to refill the giant lake and swamp ecosystem that used to be there.
They don’t care about the short-term needs of people who need to drink or put out fires or grow crops. They are making decisions entirely from the perspective of longtermism. They see restoring the central valley’s swamp ecosystem as the overwhelming long-term good, regardless of any short-term consequences.
Right idea, reckless implementation. It’s also not clear that just dumping as much water as possible into the central valley is the best way to restore the swamp ecosystem. So much of the valley’s hydrology and ability to retain water have been damaged since the cotton farmers drained the lake after the civil war. This is a restoration that needs to be done slowly and deliberately, both to not kill people who currently rely on that water and to manage the environmental impacts on the basin of suddenly reintroducing water that it’s spent 150 years adapting to live without.
I have not seen any evidence of this plan, nor any long-term planning from the administration in general. Can you support this claim?
First, the power was off due to planned maintenance. Second, Shang wasn’t an official federal employee yet, meaning he couldn’t access the pump. Hassen couldn’t do it either, CNN reports, because he had to fly back before the power would be restored.
“They didn’t get their photo op,” an unnamed source with knowledge of the incident told CNN, adding it represented “what DOGE has been this entire time — this slapstick operation of 20-somethings they’re seeing as whiz kids but have zero knowledge.”
lol that’s amazing levels of incompetence.
Who paid for the flights? American tax dollars or Elon, because it was poorly planned and inefficient which goes against the ideology of DOGE
A couple of terms that need to be resurrected and put into common use during this MAGA Occupation:
I wish someone would put me in a room with these losers
They look like my dad after he finds a new jacket at Costco.
Yelling at various department managers and threatening to call Musk might work for the agencies they’ve gutted, but yeah fucking with any fire department during an active wildfire…I don’t care who you are, you’re gonna have a bad time. Possibly shovel related.
They weren’t fucking with the fire department. They were trying to open massive water pumps (incapable of delivering water anywhere near the fires mind you) that have the capacity to flood entire towns. If you or I did that we’d be facing terrorism charges.
Got it, thank you for bringing context. The image of a shit shovel to the face was just too satisfying to ignore.
These Doggy stooges are sooooo freaking annoying.
Assuming the justice system can function again, in theory, how much jail time could they get for tampering with infrastructure and public endangerment?
A people’s justice system can be put together quickly, and can render summary judgements faster than the existing one. If the courts can’t or won’t clean up their act, we’ll have to do it for them.
