Tesla could solve most of their problems by firing Musk. Any other public company whose CEO makes a very public Nazi salute would fire that CEO.
Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions, and that any companies who deal with Musk will also face consequences.
We should give Elon more billions as an interim bonus instead.
-The Tesla board, probably
The companies board and senior leadership are his family and loyalists, therefore the company is fascist and should be destroyed, regardless of Space Karens involvement.
Id rather just see Tesla burn to the ground.
It won’t… they will bail it ot with taxpayer money. Like it or not every US citizen will buy some Telsa stock (but never own it). Capitalism for thee, but communism for me if the business fails.
The board is filled with family and close friends. They’ll protect him as long as possible.
They’ll lose the ship to save one expendable captain.
If they’re so determined to protect their Nazi captain, perhaps they deserve to lose the ship.
Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder, but I think simply getting him out of the company would give a lot of people the sense that he faced some personal consequences for his actions
On one hand, that might indeed satisfy a lot of the public. On the other hand, we ought to consider that a bad outcome because the real goal should be to tank TSLA to the point that Musk’s holdings no longer suffice as collateral and he’s forced to sell Xitter.
Yes, he’d still be a large shareholder
If they fire him, he would sell. This would tank the stock value.
They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
The stovk price is also all vibes based around him.
Edit: he wouldn’t sell, though. He couldn’t sell that much. He also has a bunch of loans leveraged against his stock aa collateral. Those collapse if the stock price collapses.
Exactly, Musk needs to go. Even apart from his abhorrent behaviour this dude supposedly has so many jobs, how can he possibly be doing them all to a reasonable standard let alone one deserving of his insane compensation.
I wonder how much money firing him would cost. The initial pay package was a stupid $56 billion. They’d probably have to pay pretty much that amount, and then hire a new CEO still.
Even after losing 50% of their value their market cap is still ~750 billion. They’re still valued at nearly 3x what Toyota is, and leagues above any other auto manufacturer. Their investors won’t do anything until they lose way more value, sadly.
And ending production of the Swastitruk would help.
At this point it is most likely that it’s the dealerships themselves trying to burn these for the insurance.
Tesla’s aren’t selling?
- Set them on fire.
- Claim that it’s arson.
- File insurance claim.
- Profit.
Probably. Unfortunately side effect is it constantly reinforce in people, “wow people really hate teslas” and further damaging the brand. I find it hard to believe Canadians would due this kind of a thing. Not that they couldn’t, i just have a hard time believing it.
I mean if they are the ones setting them on fire they don’t need to claim it is arson since it is. They just need to claim they weren’t the arsonists.
Tesla doesn’t have dealerships. All sales centers are corporate owned.
I don’t think that bit of syntax changes the point at all.
It does. A dealership is an independent entity. If cars were purposely being damaged, it would be Tesla doing that and not another company that sells Tesla vehicles.
The corporate structure is not what the grandparent is referring to, it’s committing arson to defraud insurance that he’s really referring to. Any other “aKsHuALlY” details you added are distinctions without difference.
It’s very sad that people care more about the feelings of cars than the feelings of people. Cars fucking suck. Cars are tools of oppression.
It’s not about the cars. It’s about what a powerful billionaire is doing to people.
Targeting the cars is just a way to discourage Telsa ownership, tank the stock, and give Musk less power and leverage. A lot of his power comes from his ability to borrow against Tesla.
For the past 100 years car dependency has been the sole reason for the destruction of the working class. Henry Ford the Nazi, combined with conspirators in the US government, bulldozed low income neighborhoods to build highways and create suburban utopias for rich white folk.
Car dependency is a disease which needs to be cured.
Ok, but the point still remains. This vandalism isn’t about the cars. It’s about taking money out of a billionaire’s pocket. People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.
It’s not about the cars, the cars and stores are just an accessible target. This is about Musk and DOGE.
People would be vandalizing Starlink satellites if they could reach them.
Hold my beer. *picks up rock
The feelings of cars…?
Precisely
Is it though?
largest car vandalism reported in Canada… so far.
Those are rookie numbers, we need to get them higher!
I wonder what the insurance premium on a Tesla is these days?
The damage included “deep scratches and punctured tires.”
Probably about the same as any other car.
I’d imagine that they’ll be more expensive to insure in the future if they are getting targeted en masse.
Burn it all down! Every thing that fascist fuck has!
In the words of Duke Nukem, “Hail to the king baby”
The king being us, the people, who outnumber the billionaires, the billionaires who can still bleed.
And if it bleeds we can kill it.
Ok but go at the billionaires. Not Dave from Accounting.
Useful idiots don’t get a pass for what they’ve done.
The man was a piece of shit before the first car rolled off. If you didn’t know it’s because you didn’t care.
Quite frankly we need to start shaming people bad for the products they buy because money is support under capitalism. If you buy something you are supporting that company and all the evil they do.
On the other hand, if you only pay for things that don’t support evil, you’ll starve in Capitalism.
And that’s by design.
yet
Make their insurance super high.
The dealership has insurance and destroyed cars are like sold cars for Te… that company. Or am I missing something?
Insurance companies are now talking about canceling Tesla coverage because of the high risk of vandalism, so it’s making people (including dealerships) rethink their options.
So it’s working.
They will have to pay here, yes. And then they will cancel the contract, because high risk and not worth it. The second act of vandalism will then hurt. And the question is: Will the insurance give them the “new” (catalog) price or the “market value” price?
Big thing is that people now know Telsa’s are not just sold by a loon, they’re a vandalism target. Which is two pretty big reasons no to buy a car from Musk.
Even if you like Musk, do you want to have high insurance rates and spend time at the body shop?
and spend time at the body shop?
Fun fact: not only do Cybertrucks have bare stainless steel body panels, which are extremely difficult and expensive to repair because you have to bodywork them perfect since you can’t use body filler, they have a frame made out of aluminum, which for various metallurgical reasons (work-hardening, forming a passivation layer that makes it much harder to weld, etc.) is also very difficult and expensive to repair.
In that sense, you’re probably less likely to spend time at the body shop with a Cybertruck because it’s designed to be damn near disposable.
Although, since most people seem to be keying, spray painting, and putting stickers on these cars, the stainless is very easy to clean. Just rub some steel wool in the direction of the stainless grain. Apparently they don’t have any clear coat. You can clean them like an industrial stovetop.
Yeah, the damage would have to physically displace (i.e. dent) or chemically corrode the surface of the panel in order to be difficult to fix.
Does burning count as any of these, by any chance?
Yes. High heat can cause the metal to corrode faster or even melt. (And, ya know, completely destroy the rest of the car.)
Does Tesla use dealerships in Canada? In the U.S., they don’t. They have showrooms owned by the company itself and you order online. My state requires dealerships1 and just have service centers here.
1 It’s a wildly antiquated law. When cars first came out, states passed laws requiring dealerships to guarantee the car companies could service the vehicles. Those laws are still on the books basically because car dealership owners are generally rich people who buy state legislatures. (And there’s a shocking amount who are state legislators.)
Couple of claims by a dealership and their insurance will get cancelled.
oh no.
Anyway…
Oh no… Any way…
those are rookie numbers, we can do better!
It’s believed to be the largest vandalism in Canada against vehicles from the U.S.-based car company.
This strikes me as an odd qualifier.
Have there been larger vandalism incidents in Canada against vehicles from companies based in countries outsides the states?
Not larger no, that’s what they are saying… I get you though but no… Had there been similar or close to this? Dunno … This language is just coming from the US admin to make it seem like an attack the us. Rather than on Elon musk himself and his values and actions, which it is.
