Once upon a time, a “meaningful wage” was something that would allow you to raise a family of 4 while living a comfortable middle class standard of living.
57k€ gross salary in Berlin amounts to ~3360€ per month net income. Rent alone will eat 30-40% of that.
You can survive on that salary, which is more than most people are managing to do nowadays. But to think that someone with such specialized competency should expect a “not bad” salary shows a pretty sad state of affairs.
Rent eating 30-40% of your income is extremely normal, isn’t it? Or is that only true in the US (where it has recently become much more than that for many people)?
I don’t know about you, but I don’t think we should accept to be working for less or to accept a lower standard of living just because so many people have it worse.
As long as your work is:
honest
ethical
providing real value to whoever is paying for it
not pushing externalities for others
Then “what is normal” should have no bearing in this.
Not so much of a good measure of how you live but on how much (or little) people are left for other things, including saving/investing towards their own homes.
I feel like we’re talking past each other. My impression was that 30% towards your living situation is a pretty decent target; what would you expect the percentage to be?
Once upon a time, a “meaningful wage” was something that would allow you to raise a family of 4 while living a comfortable middle class standard of living.
57k€ gross salary in Berlin amounts to ~3360€ per month net income. Rent alone will eat 30-40% of that.
You can survive on that salary, which is more than most people are managing to do nowadays. But to think that someone with such specialized competency should expect a “not bad” salary shows a pretty sad state of affairs.
Rent eating 30-40% of your income is extremely normal, isn’t it? Or is that only true in the US (where it has recently become much more than that for many people)?
You missed the last paragraph, didn’t you?
I don’t know about you, but I don’t think we should accept to be working for less or to accept a lower standard of living just because so many people have it worse.
As long as your work is:
Then “what is normal” should have no bearing in this.
Okay, what I meant was, is rent taking 30% really indicative of a low standard of living?
Not so much of a good measure of how you live but on how much (or little) people are left for other things, including saving/investing towards their own homes.
I feel like we’re talking past each other. My impression was that 30% towards your living situation is a pretty decent target; what would you expect the percentage to be?