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Bet Elon he can’t beat homelessness with 19 billions.
Bro will do it just to prove you wrong
Says the homeless illegal.immigrant from a apartheid
Not allowing billionaires to exist would end homelessness
tax the rich!
having been homeless…
the fuck is he talking about and who the fuck does he think he’s fooling
Just more of the same from his class. Wants everyone to believe in a meritocracy, because that means he’s rely great, and the people whose lifeblood he drained to get where he is aren’t victims - they’re just inferior. They wouldn’t be where they are if they were superior like him.
Probably a guillotine wouldn’t even work on him, he’s so superior. Hypothetically.
Himself and his other techbro friends that couch surfed for a while, aka violent drug addicts with severe mental health issues.
So the mentally ill deserve to be left to rot in the streets? Why else have a social safety net, if not for them?
What do you want to do, give them a house? – because we closed down all the asylums. That’s where we used to house them. I’d rather give mentally healthy people the houses.
That’s what we do in Finland and it’s been working great so far
https://www.euronews.com/2023/03/16/why-are-so-many-young-finns-dying-from-drug-abuse
Yeah, sure looks like you’re doing GREAT. You only have the highest deaths from drugs under age 25 among your population, you can start the “We’re #1!” chant now…I guess…
Only Sweden and Ireland pass you in the overall drug deaths per population. You SURE are proud!
Yeah that’s not great but I don’t see what that has to do with housing
Well we need to think ahead a little bit. We can’t take a mentally ill person right off the street and stick them in a colonial revival and expect them to maintain with the upkeep.
Free apartments work for about 80% of people and can be cheaper than hospital/jail!
(And to be specific about that minority of folks, they are not able to pick up after themselves etc.)
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Depressing fact: Most of the homeless people you see acting all crazy and talking to themselves all the time behaved normally when they started being homeless. It’s spending years in complete isolation, being constantly ignored by everyone around you and having no one to talk to that makes you act like this.
I wouldn’t jump to that though. Most working homeless live out of a car or couch surf, while not doing that.
Having both been homeless for a year (as in, on the streets, migrating from shelter to shelter) and also having worked for a homeless shelter system…
Yeah, most homeless either live in their cars, or couch surf, or jump from motel to motel… until their car gets repo’d, or their hosts kick them out, or they run out of money for motels.
Then, they’re on the streets, like I was.
A couple years of that, even if you totally stay away from hard drugs as I did, is more traumatizing than what most soldiers go through, with the exception of an actual, repeated, stop loss style front line combat deployment where they’re regularly in actual combat.
You see your friends die in your hands or right in front of you from an OD or a drive by or a mugging, you never know who you can trust, you know you may always, at any time, be assaulted or dispossesed, lose all your ids and bank cards, know that now you’re sleeping outside in a blizzard tonight because you can’t limp back to th shelter in time to make curfew, can’t call for help because your phone was broken or stolen.
All the while, every ‘normal’ person just thinks you are disgusting, literally will not even look at you, much less speak to you.
I am astoundingly lucky I lasted a year. I have PTSD now, recurring night terrors, and I am still doing PT to recover from getting regularly assaulted and walking about 2000 miles in one year… its a miracle I wasn’t stabbed, and I was maybe 100 feet away from eating lead in a drive by.
Took me a solid year of not being homeless to … just be able to have an in person conversation with anyone, without having an anxiety attack, deescalation strategy and escape route pre planned.
Women on the street have it even worse.
I remember going into a trap house at one point to get one out. I will not explain to you what they had done to her.
To add into that, most homeless are just normal people that fell on hard times, you won’t see them cause they don’t want to be a bother. You see the crazies because… Well they’re crazy. Gigantic assholes like musk assume that since you see crazy homeless people wandering outside, then obviously ALL homeless people are crazy violent lunatics. He is the smartest person in the world after all.
It’s spending years in complete isolation, being constantly ignored by everyone around you and having no one to talk to that makes you act like this.
I mean, yeah - it’s that AND the meth.
And heroin, and severe mental illness.
People forget that not every homeless person is just someone temporarily down on their luck. Iirc that $20b figure is just housing the homeless, which doesn’t fix things for people who are mentally ill, drug addicts, or both, and that’s like 60-80% of the chronically homeless.
It’s a massively complex issue with no simple fix.
You’re right, a 100% fix of the problem is not simple or easy. But there’s a whole lot of low-hanging fruit that we can tackle to make huge strides.
While drugs and/or mental illness may be involved in a high percentage of the chronically homeless, the chronically homeless only account for somewhere between 1/5 and 1/3 of all homeless. So housing the other homeless would still take care of the needs of ~80% of all homeless, give or take. Get single-payer healthcare up and running to prevent more people from ending up in those situations, and change from a retributive justice system to one that cares about rehabilitation, and suddenly we’ve got a society that actually cares about people, and would cost less to run while we’re at it.
But, with a functioning safety net, people won’t feel like they have no other choice but to work a shit job for shit wages, and the oligarchs can’t have that.
i would add that housing-first approaches increase the likelihood that mental health and substance use treatment even work long term.
hard to wanna get sober when you’re being harassed by police or other people. hard to stay sane when you’re barely surviving and putting drugs on top to cope.
right now, many people experiencing homelessness and severe mental illness/addiction are hospitalized for a few days or a week and then they go back to the street. which doesn’t do much except get an individual out of immediate crisis. many will repeat this pattern over and over until incarceration or death.
Remind me: why do we want mentally-ill drug addicts on our streets again?
Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another.
Psychology Today is another corpo shit hole that avoids paying taxes in the US. Article writers are verified in the loosest sense of the word. Please take psychology today with a grain of salt when used as a resource.
Ok.
its malignant forms, it is a defense mechanism in which the ego defends itself against disowned and highly negative parts of the self by denying their existence in themselves and attributing them to others, breeding misunderstanding and causing interpersonal damage.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
Better?
Also I’m not sure why I should care that psychology today does pay taxes in your country when your country is putting tarrifs on every other country in the world.
Respect to Kyle. Dude started off in the Atheist channel days of YouTube and didn’t fall down the gamer gate MRA pipeline like most of them did. That was such a right wing cash grab that so many channels grifted towards.
Then he continued with good left adjacent commentary on most issues and stayed true to his moral compass. Didn’t fall for the right wing narratives that TYT and other similar channels had during post COVID. He stayed consistent and didn’t grift to the right for a bigger audience.
I disagree with a bit of what he has said over the years. I disagree with him on a lot of “big picture” stuff. But absolute respect to his consistency. I’m pretty sure he’s still entirely user funded still (no sponsors etc).
It’s refreshing to have watched him on and off for a decade and hes been consistently on the correct side of issues. Its rare to see out of a political commentator.
Been watching him off and on for a decade now, it is nice to see how consistent he’s stayed, and you’re right he is entirely user funded and takes great pride in it.
Yep. Glad to hear that’s still true. It’s so nice to see. A complete opposite of a lot of people that I use to love. Ethan Klein being the worst and most recent example.
Why does “violent drug addicts with severe mental illness” mean somehow they shouldn’t be helped anyways?
Remember, they are saying what would need to be true to justify what they plan to do. This should be read as Elon declaring intent to put homeless people in camps.
He’s a violent drug addict, way more dangerous and destructive than any homeless person could be.
The word Elon is a propaganda word it is a lie. It is actually Felon, which is a violent drug addict with mental illness.
To be fair, that is kinda nonsense. Germany and austria, for example have a lot of support networks for people in need, we even have entire networks dedicated to supporting homeless people, so nobody has to be homeless here - yet we do have a lot of them. For some people, homelessness is almost a choice more than an involuntary decision.
Obviously, idk how this would be in america, but I don’t think it would be a lot different.
It’s amazing that a man who does enough ket to bring down a racehorse even dares to use the phrase “drug addict” as an insult.
Not unusual for addicts to displace blame onto the people around them in order to justify their addictions.
The difference between Musk, Thiel, et al and your average American junkie is simply their line of credit. They can keep taking experimental intoxicants, safe in the knowledge their friends will loan them another $2M the next time they wrap their McLauren around a stop sign.
