I live in an affluent part of South Carolina. It’s become completely overrun with Trump assholes and degenerates. I don’t know how much longer I can take it. Where can we go?
I don’t want the bitter cold of the northeast or Chicago. I don’t want coastal California, it’s insufferable. What are my options? Why can’t we just be fucking normal?!
I’ve heard good things about Durham.NC.
I love South Carolina and used to visit Charleston annually but I’ll never go again because of the politics.
I live in a similar part of SC as well. I feel you.
When I had a FB acct, I wasnpart of my area’s group, and the racists there was insane, even one person litterally was complaining that she moved to this area because she was tired of the north and was looking for the “white parts” of the south.
If you figure out where to move, please post an update, looking for somewhere new as well.
There hasn’t been “bitter cold” in the northeast for a decade. Climate change is a bitch. We barely get snow anymore - 2015 was a banger, but it’s been dustings since.
Idk it was -15 in 2020 and 2021 and in subzero in 22 and 23 where I live in IL.
northeast
Ok so where in the northeast is not batshit? Rural PA is the same as here. Same with upstate NY or NH. NYC? No way. Maybe Delaware or something?
Can’t help but think you’re overlooking Cleveland. Where we have billboards that have eyebrows. You KNOW what he does! We have romanburger FEED THE HUNGER!!! We’ll talk about how Melt and Barrio lost their way, and how the George family are pieces of shit. Mark from Norton furnature is here for you! Seriously! Now, if you can’t get credit here, you can’t get credit anywhere! Now enjoy this unrequested acid trip, as shit stops making sense, and Gumby chases a mad scientist with scissors through a missmash of full size random characters that sometimes hang your coat for you, and sometimes run you out the store chasing you with hedgeclippers. Where we used to all be in on the joke of the Cleveland tourism videos, but now loathe them as they’ve been taken over by outsiders as a means to mock us.
We also race hot dogs at the baseball stadium, and you can pick your favorite based on condiment. My pick is ketchup, because he’s awesome. Kids love mustard because he “plays by the ruuuules”, and nobody picks onion, because…well, she knows what she did. She’s a disgrace to the city, and the less spoken about the great hobo vehicular manslaughter of '88 said the better.
And so now, I can put either an Indians hat on your head, or a Guardians hat on your head. Seeing as you have no personal emotional ties to the 1995, 1997, and to a smaller extent 2016 Indians, I assume you have no personal attatchment to chief wahoo, so it’s perfectly fine to wear the Guardians stuff. Just don’t be surprised that people 40+ will still wear the old chief wahoo gear. It’s not a sign of racism to us. It’s a tribute to the days of Jim Thome, and Manny Rameriez, and Carlos Baerga, and Kenny Lofton, and Albert Belle, and (as much as it sucks to know how he turned out) Omar Vizquel. We’ll still shit on Jośe Mesa, but really it wasn’t as much his fault as people like to say. Now, regarding Slider, we don’t know what the hell he is either. No one does. It’s best not to think about it. It’s also best not to think about the time Slider was dancing on top of the dugout, and slid knees first off the side and broke his leg. I say it’s best not to think about because it’s really funny, and you’ll laugh for too long of a time.
We also have Cleveland signs, all over the city. By this, I mean just statue like letters, all in white, that are styled the same way, and they say “Cleveland”. Just in case you forget where you are.
Then there’s Big Chuck, and Little Jon. No, not the rapper, but he does have as much bling as a rapper. He own a jewelry shop, but also, he’s like 4’5. Despite his name, he’s not really known for having prostitutes.
And people will come up to you on the street, and start talking to you. You’ve never met these people, but they’ll come up to you like “Hey man, you see the game last night? Shiiiiit, Rameriez knocked out Tim Andersons punk ass!” while you’re like “Uhhhhhh, sure. I’m just trying to carry this refridgerator home.” And then he’ll offer to help. You think I’m joking, but I’m using this as a real life example of what happened to me.
And our weather can best be described as “FUCK YOU!!!”. Last week it was roughly 100 degrees, and the past few days it’s been in the 70s. We havent had much snow since covid. Except for that one week last year near christmas where it said “FUCK YOU! NEGATIVE 20 DEGREES AND 3 FEET OF SNOW OVERNIGHT!!!” and we haven’t seen snow since.
So come to Cleveland. We have beer.
That was a wild ride! I used to stay up with my Dad and watch Big Chuck and Little John, and definitely heard Mark’s voice when I read that bit.
You’ve sold me
Philly suburbs!
You really can’t get bluer than mass ri conn and vt
Southern nh and southern me are basically Boston suburbs. As you go north it gets more red. But not like sc (I have family in sc and outside of the blue cities - ya they are pretty maga stupid). They are more “leave me alone red” as opposed to “my pastor said abortion is bad and I like to make fun of the gays”
I mean there’s maga idiots everywhere-but honestly things might even tip a little too blue in southern New England.
And education is pretty good too.
Ideally, you don’t go anywhere. You talk to those assholes and degenerates and try to understand them a bit better and maybe even try to make friends with them (yes, yes, crazy idea). They are your fellow citizens, after all.
From over here in Europe, questions like this really make America look screwed. Let’s hope it’s not.
Dumb take. I don’t need to sit down and have a beer with my anti-vax MAGA neighbors to understand them. I understand them just fine, they’re brain damaged morons.
This isn’t really going to happen. It’s past the point where you can pretend that they’re even trying to do what they think is right.
Yeah… We’re talking about people who literally want us dead. And because it’s America, they likely own guns. Some of them are literal neo-Nazis or Christian fascists and might actually try to do you harm if you’re Jewish, Muslim, or gay. Making friends with them isn’t just painful and unpleasant, it’s dangerous.
Just to give you a sense of the type of things that you might have to sit through to be “friends” with these folks… My cousin had a kid in her Catholic school class write an essay comparing gayness to bestiality. Another cousin’s husband constantly misgendered my trans sibling on purpose. My parents’ neighbors hung a flag on their wall depicting a person pointing a gun at my parents’ house.
I’ll give you a pass since you’re from Europe and have no sense for the level of extremism embraced by our right wing political groups but trust me… If “just talk to your neighbors” worked we’d be doing it. As it is, your best bet is to avoid them knowing your politics and get out if you can.
Because Putin & Murdoch hate democracy & know new age warfare: troll social media, market fake news.
With a tiny troll army: Created a party of snowflakes that calls everybody else snowflakes.
Streaming endless propaganda (Fake News: Fox, Alex Jones etc)
What’s wrong with California?
Too awesome
Come to Finland. I have absolutely zero clue about what party my neighbours vote. Hell, I don’t even know who my friends of parents vote.
I genuinely want to move there if trump wins. Could someone who only speaks english function there?
Most Finns speak english pretty well, especially ones that are under 40 years old. However finding a job as someone not speaking Finnish can be a struggle. Fluent english skills alone aren’t something most companies would see as a big advantage as most people fresh out of school can pretty much do that as well. Finnish is a difficult language to learn but you don’t need to be perfect at it either. A foreigner willing to even try and learn the language is hugely appreciated. My russian neighbour knows like 30 words but that’s enough to get thru most conversations one needs to have with a neighbour.
I would love to move to Finland.
If you wany a rural setting you’re probably fucked.
If you’re looking for a SC kind of ‘city’ I would suggest perhaps Colorado, or something like Bend Oregon, or Spokane Washington. More isolated cities without large populations and also surrounded by that rural character.
Colorado is great, just don’t move anywhere near Colorado Springs unless you wanna help turn it purple. The city is a Republican enclave wrapped around the Air Force Academy.
Why don’t you just stay there?
If you have a good rate you’ll be setting yourself up for a haircut if you choose to move.
Come to Columbus, Ohio. It doesn’t have the name recognition of Seattle or Denver, but it’s a pretty chill city with decent weather, good people, and a lower cost of living than just about anywhere else while also having job opportunities.
plus, Steven and Elise Keaton! (Family Ties was set there)
Central Illinois - basically everything within 50-75 miles of I-74 across the state. Doesn’t get bitter cold, not overrun with MAGA asshats (among the reasons we left another Midwest state), cost of living isn’t terrible, and easy access to Chicago, St Louis, and beyond.
Well I’m in Tucson, AZ right now. It’s a pretty liberal city in a decidedly purple rural state. Mountains and wildlife are gorgeous.
But it’s Tucson…
Exactly! You get to be surrounded by nature, and not concrete and pavement like that other city.
Haha! Phoenix definitely loves to pave over its history.
I have deep roots in Tucson but only went there to visit my grandparent. They lived north of Tanque Verde with nothing around them. Beautiful area but boring as a kid.
Maryland
45 minutes outside of Portland, OR in any direction will get you somewhere just as rural as the place you left in SC, only with better weather and sane laws.
Accurate, but be careful because once you go 2+ hours outside of Portland, OR you will likely find yourself once again among cognitively challenged folks…
Heck, 10 minutes past Portland city limits and it’s Dodge Rams and Trump flags.
Definitely don’t keep going into Idaho
Charlotte? Raleigh? DC?
I’m in Tampa and it’s a real mix here, but oof housing cost is out of control.
If you don’t like to be in a city, you will probably be in a backwards place, that’s just how the US works. But lots of mid sized cities are moderate politically.
North Carolina is gerrymandered to hell.
Florida too. Even with the influx of racist northerners, it’s mixed politically here, mixed in every way imaginable actually but you’d never know it looking at the legislature.
Yeah we live across the border from Charlotte. The area would be really nice if it could stop stepping on its own dick so much. The public schools are among the top in the nation (believe it or not) but a maga bitch who’s hell-bent on destroying the system just won. The sheriff who won tonight was at Jan 6 and freely admits it. It might be time to get out of here.
First of all congrats on realizing the insanity around you. Second of all there’s probably a lot more moderate liberals in your area than you realize because they’re smart enough to shut the fuck up around the insane maga posse. Be the change you want to see in the world. Stand up for your beliefs. And if you do actually decide to jump ship, just remember there are other parts of California besides the coast…
