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“Good Guy” just kills the “Bad Guy”
Like just fucking do it, stop being a loser.
The Expanse Spoiler
I didn’t read the books but when it came to the “You’re not that guy” scene, I was about to be so pissed if they spared the guy. But good thing they actually turn it to one of the best scenes of the show.
“I am that guy”
💥🔫
That plays out in the Discworld novels. The idea is, pray the man about to kill you is a bad guy, because he’ll fuck around, gloat, maybe make a mistake. If he’s a good guy, he’ll kill you instantly.
There’s an episode of doctor who with a similar interaction (to the spoiler).
BBEG: This is why good men always lose. They follow too many rules.
Doctor: That’s where you’re wrong. Good men don’t need rules.
From memory, so exact phrasing is probably wrong but the idea is there
Good men don’t need any rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many.
In movies? I wanna see people be more casual sexual with friends, without it being a big deal. Cause that’s how my friendships are like. A little fun times is not something to write home about, most of the time
It’s hard to write good sex into something and not have it detract from the plot. Most movies are plot driven and the casual sexual angle doesn’t normally contribute to advancing the plot (not saying it isn’t possible). It could be used in the worlds-building phase but then would also be a one and done thing.
I once was recommended a Japanese anime, “Gate”. It’s about a fantasy world trying to invade our modern realm. Earth strikes back with modern weapons, the fantasy world has no chance with their dragons, Orks and magic.
This I would love to see more of, asymmetrical warfare, it’s just a power fantasy, but a fun one!
That sounds awesome. Was the anime good? Looks interesting.
It’s one of my favorite. People call it a JSDF recruitment video, but it’s just a good old fashioned curb stomping.
I’m watching it now. Of course the main character is a weeb lol. I kinda was hoping it would be a bit more serious. Also why is he all of a sudden like a professional soldier? Kinda makes no sense.i thought maybe he was a former soldier? But nah, just a weeby dude who all of a sudden gained tactical awareness and combat skills? Wtf lol. Either way it’s pretty cool so I’ll keep watching. I’m only on ep 1. The idea is pretty interesting.
Won’t spoil it, but keep watching, your initial assessment is a bit off there.
Good! I’m glad it is. I will keep watching thank you .
Okay on ep2. Loving this. They just fucking curbstomp the armies. And the US is obviously a bunch of fucking pricks. Even if this is Japanese army propaganda, it’s still entertaining as shit.
Some pretty bad fanservice though. Quite bad actually.
Haha maybe that would be more cringe if I was native Japanese. But as a non-Japanee person it might just be cool to see a curb stomping.
You might like The Laundry Files books by Charles Stross. Exactly that plays out in one book where elves invade Earth.
The premise is that magic is real, and can be summoned/controlled by the appropriate application of mathematics. If you discover this truth, you’re irrevocably attached to The Laundry, basically MI6 for supernatural affairs, and you can never leave.
The protagonist is an IT nerd in England. He almost flattened Wolverhampton with a new algorithm he discoved but they caught him in time. His wife is a protagonist in a few books, and she’s a delight. One of my favorites is where a bunch of high-end accountants accidentally make themselves vampires.
Reminds me of that cheat in Age of Empire that gets you missile cars and marines with laser rifles. I used to have so much fun just obliterating ancient armies with tanks and shit lol.
Interesting. Any sufficiently powerful magic erases all conventional weapons, so the magic of the fantasy world can’t be all that powerful in the first place.
In Gate there is very little to no magic. It’s mainly a Roman-era army, with some wyverns and other creatures thrown in. The military even comments how hard the wyvern scales are and that it shrugged off .50-cal bullets. But it couldn’t survive a shit load of C4.
I’m liking the anime but absolutely hating the fanservice. It reminds me Jobless Reincarnation. Super cool and interesting overall story but almost unwatchable due to the fanservice.
Huh. I actually don’t remember that much fanservice. I guess I blocked that part out.
- sunny loves grumpy
- savage mama bear
- really fucking personal, inexorable vengeance
I’ve recently been going through Persona 4 Golden, and I love Kanji. He’s a rough guy who people assume is a bully (for example, he beat up a biker gang), but he has a heart of gold - for example he crochets dolls for a kid to play with. He’s very interested (and talented) in arts & crafts, but at the beginning he’s ashamed of others looking down on him for that.
One of my favorite tropes, and quickly one of my favorite characters.
I’ve always been a fan of space aliens interacting with ancient civilization on Earth, like in Stargate the movie
Was playing through Bloodborne again recently and it got me thinking about this, too. I love the blending of high technology with medieval level knowledge. Having aliens conquer a planet of humanoids that are still in the bronze age would lead to some interesting juxtaposition and it’s fun to try and conceive how a 12th century peasant might describe a laser weapon.
Bodyguard romance trope.
I’m not sure what it’s called, buy I love the trope of where a large party gets split off into two smaller parties who eventually reunite. This split could be forced through physical events or it could just be a relationship split between friends.
Lord the Rings is a great example of what I mean. Frodo is forced to leave after seeing what the Ring does and Sam goes with him, while Mary and Pippin get kidnapped and have their own adventure, and finally Aragorn and his merry trio go help the war effort in Rohan. They all end up reunited in the end though.
Sounds like my family’s last trip to Six Flags.
Sentient, autonomous, giant fighter mechas.
So far the most popular franchise with this is Transformers, but most of their media is mediocre at best. There are some exceptions like a few of the comics and some of the series which are really good, but overall as a franchise they are lacking unfortunately. I really love the trope though.
The other franchise with this would be Bionicle but I can’t say I know much about it.
There are plenty of mechas out there, but they don’t tick all the boxes for this trope. Most are either non sentient or require a human pilot to be active. And those which are sentient and autonomous are rarely fighters.
So if you know of any - please let me know. Thanks.
EVAs (from evangelion) are sentient. And can be autonomous but -everyone would rather they didn’t
Evangelion has been on my list for too long, I just don’t have time for anything in my life. So does each one have their own distinct personality, motivations etc? Are they actually characters or are they more like props?
More like monsters, really. With one exception because one of them has a (very creepy) bond with the main protagonist.
Minor Spoilers (backstory)
The Evas are half-biological half-mechanical clones of the Angels the characters are fighting, so they are malicious by default if they break control
Last year I watched anime Ragna Crimson, and I really liked “He is not an enemy that you use strategy to fight with. He is an enemy you use strategy to not fight with.” along with the general strategic feeling of Crimson’s actions. I’m open for recommendations, but I don’t know when will I find time to watch them.
I love good guys who look like they’re bad guys.
One niche I think is severely underserved is like. A good guy who serves straight up classic villain aesthetics. Like someone who’s refined, and cunning, always plotting something, and if the setting has superpowers, they got an ‘evil’ coded power… But their goals are those of a good guy. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a character like that, unless you count Col. Mustang from the Fullmetal Alchemist anime/manga, who ticks at least a few of the boxes.
(If you know of OTHER characters who fit my description, PLEASE tell me)
You might enjoy the web novels Worm. The main protagonist is basically exactly the above, an antihero by necessity with an “evil” power. The book in general lends itself to grey morality, even for the heroes. The actual villains? Actual evil. The author likes to imagine unorthodox super powers and really makes the characters with them really sing.
Be warned though, it’s a web novel that is literally something like “normal” 20 books long. Besides a rare lurch or two, it’s also a surprisingly very good 20 novels.
HAH! My friends have been pushing Worm on me for years, and I’ve been sloooowly making my way through it (though good god that beginning part with all the bullying took me out of the story for 2 years)
BuuuuuuuUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut – Taylor is more of an Antihero Classic. She’d fit right in with so many comic anti-heroes, even if her story is a lot darker due to not having to answer to executives like most comic antiheroes do. Her vibe is too – Scrappy for what I was longing for. Though she does indeed have the evil superpower, and fights bad guys who are so much worse than her villain-gang friends. She’s always desperately struggling for survival and figuring shit out as she goes along.
What I was fantasizing about is more like “what if Coil was the hero” (since you mentioned Worm…). Not ‘the hero of his own story’, not ‘scheming and doing bad things for the right reasons’ (which seems to be what the story is going for tbqh – But when I fell off last time he was JUST ABOUT to have Taylor and the Undersiders killed), but straight up heroic… While maintaining all his “cultured mafia leader who is infallibly polite, but has a plan to kill everyone in secret, and gives off an aura of absolute control and confidence” vibe.
Villain Classic. But not a villain.
Batman
Actually.
… Yeah, pretty much. I hadn’t thought of it, but… Yeah.
Or at least some batmen. Since every comic hero is really about sixty different characters.
Have you checked out the whole “Noir” genre? Burnt out old schlubby heros who look like bad guys is a whole thing there. Humphrey Bogart in the Maltese Falcon, Terriers for a more modern take.
Bad guys who aren’t misunderstood but aren’t bad. They occupy a niche mindspace in which they have a genuine and noble goal but their goal is mutually exclusive with the good guy’s goals (the Shadowlord from Nier Gestalt)
Then, on the flip side, bad guys who know that they’re bad and revel in it (Jack Horner from Puss in Boots)
Good guys who are good leaders. They have no superhuman abilities but their power is to bring out the best in others. They don’t beat the bad guys through sheer strength or being inspired by the power of friendship (which IMO is just the same thing), but they do so by strategically playing to people’s strengths (Senku from Dr. Stone)
Warrior princesses (or otherwise ‘fighting refined ladies’) – Who aren’t tomboys, and are in fact fully feminine coded, but can still kick ass with the best of 'em. (Princess Leia, some iterations of Zelda, Rarity from MLP in a way though she’s not a princess, etc.)
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… I’m a he/they queer man, so I shan’t say anything. But I might have a look at the place anyway.
Ahhh sorry mate I read it as “we” not who. Your comment was pretty feminist too so thanks 😊
Is cool :)
Romance stories where the story doesn’t end the moment they kiss/confess/become a couple. There’s more of those lately so I’m happy.
Non-flamboyant gay relationships, just being treated as normal without any special attention in movies.
It always becomes a “quirky” “random” “so different ✨” personality trait for those characters that they are insufferable.
Directors have no clue how real people live.
Yep it makes me wonder how many queer people consulted. If they’d seen me and my ex together they’d have seen how incredibly boring we are
