The american voters have really outdone themselves this time

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    “You’ll never believe it, Mr Kennedy. According to our data, vaccines causes cancer”, he says, smiling. “Once we increased our vaccination rates, cancer became a major cause of death within 15 years. I suspect that far fewer people will die of cancer, if we simply roll our policies back

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      And more people will die of polio, measles, mumps, and other preventable diseases BEFORE they have the chance to die from cancer!

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      “Name one person that died of cancer who never received a vaccine for anything. That’s what I thought!”

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      And we also discovered everyone who drinks water, has died some point in their life. We must take all the water from the people and give them to corporations so they can protect us.

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    They really should review dihydrogen monoxide which is continually pushed by doctors but has a 100% mortality rate! DO YOUR RESEARCH!

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      Goodness me. It’s so dangerous it eats away at untreated metal. How could they foist this dangerous mixture onto us. It’s worse than micro plastics. I heard estimates that claim it’s now found in every living American… and may even be now found in almost all of our food. Absolutely disgusting.

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      This is why RFK only drinks methylated paint thinner.

      Well that and he confused the methyl-part with methamphetamine.

      Don’t do meth. Or methyl alcohol. Both are awful.

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        methylene blue to be exact, he has been seen in a video, of him using a large dropper of methylene blue on a flight into his drink. he bought into the unsubstantiated reports of it being useful.

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      Nah, that’s just a red herring, and completely discredited. The real problem is hydrogen hydroxide. Everywhere that you see dihydrogen monoxide, there’s also hydrogen hydroxide. That’s the real danger.

      (/S for people that don’t know the different chemical names)

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    If the word “skeptic” in the title actually meant that, this would be a good thing. It’s good to be skeptic about everything until you’re shown evidence. The problem here is that those folks aren’t really skeptic.

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      Hard to accept a “skeptic” in a field with overwhelming evidence that he’s wrong. It means he either doesn’t or refuses to understand the current data which makes him just a dummy not a skeptic

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    I feel like using terms like “vaccine skeptic” for these morons is a major PR win for them. It makes it sound way more legitimate than it is. Fuck corporate media sanewashing everything going on politically right now.

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    I’d just like to caveat that a slim majority of American voters outdid themselves to undo decades of past hard-won progress.

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      A third of eligible voters didn’t vote. The remaining people who did vote were almost evenly split. So, in rough numbers, 1/3rd of American voters put us all in this mess.

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        No, 2/3rds.

        The third-ish that voted for Trump, and the third-ish that didn’t vote for Harris.

        In other words, the majority of Americans either wanted this government, or didn’t care if this was the government.

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          Exactly one organization is to blame, the one that finally got Biden to step down long after it was clear he had no chance, just to replace him with someone who promises to change nothing.

          The only reasonable explanation is that the Democrats threw the election on purpose. They very well know what it takes to motivate the voters and they did the exact opposite by putting Republicans on the campaign stage with Harris.

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              I might, outside of the beef with Harris, that are kinda right. Dem advisors seem to have deliberately sunk the campaign once they took over and they seem to be pushing for another loss by moving even more right.

              • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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                Here’s a simpler explanations: DNC is an umbrella party with many different factions. Sometimes they miscalculate, make mistakes, and are raked over coals for it.

                Compare that with RNC. Their voters show up to vote for R no matter what RNC does.

                It’s not DNC management’s duty to go left. It’s the duty of American leftists to push them left and withholding votes isn’t the way to do it.

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                  Their voters show up to vote for R no matter what RNC does.

                  Exactly.

                  So, obviously, trying to appeal to them is at best a waste of time.

                  The threat to withhold our vote is the only leverage we have to effect change within the party. Of course I’m voing to use it.

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      a slim majority

      Not even that. The majority of voters, 50.2%, voted for Harris or third party.

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          They didn’t technically vote for Trump. Which I don’t say to absolve them of blame, but this particular thread of comments was pedantry over how many people voted for Trump.

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            The only pathways are direct voter ballot initiativesmin the states that have them (only 26 states do) and progressive candidates and voters flooding the Democratic primaries to take over the party.

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              voters flooding the Democratic primaries to take over the party.

              And this is how you have to do it in a two-party FPtP system.

              That’s exactly how the Tea Party turned the GOP into the mess it is now.

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                  Absolutely nothing… hence the It needs to change bit.

                  Realistically it’s the same question I could pose you saying just play the game… What exactly does picking the “lesser of two evils” net us? A race to the bottom. It’s not ideal nor does it work. The most recent election is a perfect example of this.

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    I feel like I should start wearing a mask again in stores and other crowds, because this administration is going to kill me if I wait for the experts.

    ps There are no experts anymore just these anti vaccine loony fuckshits.

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      I never stopped. And I damn well won’t be anytime soon.

      A large enough proportion of the populace has deemed it their God Given Right to infect anyone and everyone under the doctrine of “It’s Just the Flu, Bro”.

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        for real. During covid, I didn’t get sick once, and that was heavenly cause when I get sick, it runs for weeks and get really really bad. I thought that wearing masks when sick would be the norm now, but whatever

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          I foolishly had dental work done in 2023. LONG overdue.

          The tech doing my x-rays had an n95, full face shield and gloves. The idiot dentist starts poking in my mouth with NO gloves and is completely unmasked.

          The 3 years of being hyper cautious, getting every damned booster and treating every stranger as a plague vector down the drain. Thankfully only a week of what felt like one of the worst bouts of influenza I’ve had.

          Still getting yearly boosters, still masking and still assuming that every one I run into in public is on a holy crusade to spread mega measles or the like.

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    These people have co-opted the work “skeptic”.

    I grew up Orthodox and became skeptical of god’s role in my life, now I’m agnostic.

    My parents became “skeptical” of vaccines. Once they found their first antivax substack they are no longer “skeptical” but rather certain vaccines cause autism and covid vax causes heart attacks.

    I find it hilarious (sad) they stop being skeptical once they find “proof” of their suspicions and then claim to be skeptics.

    They of course have seen all the research supporting vaccines and deemed it insubmissable because it was funded by big pharma or the WHO (CHINA).

    The only science they believe is the shit pushed by their “independent” researchers (crunchy influencers).

    🤮

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      When you’re agnostic you’re just a closet atheist. It’s not that atheists are sure there is no god, we’re not, nobody can say that for sure. We can (and do) say, however, that you don’t have to worry about made up fairy tale rules, there likely isn’t a god. Just be a nice person and you’ll be fine.

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        I used to call myself an atheist but switched to agnostic since I don’t know for certain. My agnostic belief in a higher power is NOT the judgemental rule writing god of scripture. More of a default reason for enexplainable things in our universe. As science progresses there are less things where the higher power is needed.

        But that’s just me.

        I always told my parents when they were disappointed in me for ditching the “Faith”: I may be a bad Jew but I make every effort to be a good person.

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        I’m agnostic. Definitely not a closet atheist. I actually talk about God with my closest and most catholic friend regularly

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          So do I, what’s your point?

          If you say that you believe in God, then you’re not agnostic. If you don’t believe in God, you’re an atheist. Atheist, agnostic, in practice it’s the exact same thing

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            If I were an atheist then I would say there is no God, no afterlife, no soul, none of that.

            I am agnostic because I haven’t seen evidence that I should rule it out nor accept it as gospel. Pun slightly intended.

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    There’s no such thing as a “vaccine skeptic”.
    Skeptic implies that they could have their opinion swayed if presented with evidence. The fact that they’re still “skeptical” despite literal mountains of evidence shows that they only call themselves “skeptics” because it makes them sound reasonable, when in reality if they could have been swayed by reason they would have changed their minds a long time ago.

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      Of course. There are a larger number of vaccinated people who have used a trebuchet than non-vaccinated people, and trebuchets are a great way of helping pigs fly

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    Mark Geier

    Is that the patient 0 of that autism claim? The one that was discredited decades ago (both the person and the claim)?

    The biggest problem with him was, he just couldn’t admit he had been wrong and continued to spout the bullshit, thus discovering a moderately profitable grift. And now his son is continuing it.

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    Being skeptic is not bad. Not seek nor relay on scientific evidences is the problem…

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    “LET’S FIGURE OUT AND CURE AUTISM” they say as if a considerable amount of humanity’s greatest inventions/discoveries aren’t accredited to people across the spectrum.

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    Headline later…

    90% of people with autism were vaccinated! Vaccines cause autism!

    Actual data later

    90% of the population is vaccinated. The rate of autism in the 90% and remaining unvaccinated 10% is exactly the same.