In the United States, wealthy individuals like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos are allowed to dominate the country’s politics and economy. But there is another way.
At this point, I can’t tell if people like him talk about this because they believe it, or they talk about this just to make the article acceptable to an American audience.
This is why Xi Jinping did a massive anti-corruption campaign and initiated reforms of China’s anti-corruption state institutions. In 2018, China transferred the task of investigating corruption to a new department from the Supreme People’s Procuratorate, the National Supervisory Commission (国家监察委员会), which has broader powers to investigate corruption within both the government and the Communist Party via its co-located sister agency, the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection (中国共产党中央纪律检查委员会). This lets China attack corruption at the state and party level.
In the US, corruption is legalized as lobbying or conveniently free vacation gifts.
All the US-funded sources just say 1000+ executions per year, no hard numbers, IDK where their stats come from. Give me hard per-capita numbers. China is the 2nd-largest country on Earth, so should on average execute the 2nd-most number of people. IDK why India doesn’t execute anyone, lots of gang rapists there deserve it.
Culturally, Chinese people broadly support execution. China doesn’t have US-style racism, so minorities aren’t falsely executed.
The cited WaPo article talks about China executing 4 Chinese citizens, who failed to report their Canadian citizenship to the Chinese government, on drug smuggling charges. Think about how many people’s lives those drugs could have destroyed. I think they deserve it. Interestingly, Canada didn’t complain about their arrest, imprisonment, or sentencing, only their execution to make China look bad.
Its human rights abuses against the Uyghur minority— although cynically seized upon by anti-China politicians like Marco Rubio who couldn’t care less about human rights—are still real and horrifying.
How can “socialists” still believe this debunked shit? Is China bombing Xinjiang like Israel is nuking Palestine?
Working conditions in many Chinese sweatshops and factories are abominable, just like the European factories and sweatshops of the 19th century that Karl Marx railed against.
I’m not knowledgable on these cases. Can someone else look into this?
I’m not super knowledgable on the first bunch of cases. Can someone else look into this?
The first article talks about several cases, including one where students were arrested for supporting an independent trade union. China has an official national union, the All-China Federation of Trade Unions. Interestingly, most independent trade unions in China operate as US-funded NGOs.
The second article talks about fallout after the arrest of Bo Xilai, Party Secretary of Chongqing, and associates for corruption and corruption-initiated murder. According to court proceedings, Wang Lijun, chief of police and vice-mayor of Chongqing, learned that Bo Xilai’s wife Gu Kailai murdered British businessman Neil Heywood because he charged too high a fee for illegally sending tons of money out of China. After finding out and trying to talk about the issue with Bo Xilai, Bo retaliated against Wang Lijun, first demoting him and then attempting to arrest him. In fear of his life, Wang Lijun went to the US embassy for protection, then to Beijing once the Chinese government found out. Initially, the central government did not believe Wang Lijun’s accusations, denouncing him as a traitor. Later they changed their tune and arrested Bo, probably after finding out the depth of Bo Xilai and co’s corruption. Because Bo Xilai had a lot of political allies, and had garnered some public support due to some of his policies, his takedown caused a bunch of chaos that the Chinese government tried to calm with selective censoring.
The entire saga is somewhat reminiscent of the corruption case shown in the Chinese TV show In the Name of the People. Watch that to understand the political chaos that ensued.
Its human rights abuses against the Uyghur minority— although cynically seized upon by anti-China politicians like Marco Rubio who couldn’t care less about human rights—are still real and horrifying.
you know it’s gonna be a banger (sarcastic) when it starts by saying the Uyghurs are a “Turkic” people.
edit: oh my god… “(Uyghurs still often prefer to refer to their homeland by the older term, East Turkestan.)” Why did you type East Turkestan in English. Why not in Uyghur. Because it doesn’t exist in Xinjiang, that’s why. Nobody but the CIA diaspora believes in East Turkestan. Some people shouldn’t be allowed to write.
Working conditions in many Chinese sweatshops and factories are abominable, just like the European factories and sweatshops of the 19th century that Karl Marx railed against.
I’m not knowledgable on these cases. Can someone else look into this?
Additional comment since it’s another thing entirely. This is not true anymore. Their info is severely out of date, like most westerners when they speak about China. Nowadays “sweatshops” (they mean factories) even have trouble finding employees because the new generation doesn’t want to do it. They have other opportunities. It’s come to the point where some factories will lodge you, feed you, and pay you a sign-on bonus on top of your normal wage. Many younger people in China do it as a summer job.
I knew I had issues with Current Affairs and this is why. Using the aesthetic of Marxism with none of the actual substance. Doing a shoutout to Marx and expecting everyone to turn their heads and bow in reverence at the name drop. I don’t even know where Marx ‘railed’ against 19th century factories, he probably did, but his bigger point was not so much the conditions of the factories but the condition of the proletariat. They’re making him seem like a socdem… because that’s what they are.
I enjoyed reading this but omg did my eyes glaze over when he started screeching about the “Uygur genocide”. And banning Maoist propaganda, LMao!
You gotta love how they have to throw this in, it’s just like every western article about Ukraine has to lead with ‘full scale invasion’.
Lol. I guess in this case the fact that it was buried all the way at the end is an improvement.
ha
At this point, I can’t tell if people like him talk about this because they believe it, or they talk about this just to make the article acceptable to an American audience.
Here’s the article’s claims point-by-point:
This is why Xi Jinping did a massive anti-corruption campaign and initiated reforms of China’s anti-corruption state institutions. In 2018, China transferred the task of investigating corruption to a new department from the Supreme People’s Procuratorate, the National Supervisory Commission (国家监察委员会), which has broader powers to investigate corruption within both the government and the Communist Party via its co-located sister agency, the Central Commission for Discipline Inspection (中国共产党中央纪律检查委员会). This lets China attack corruption at the state and party level.
In the US, corruption is legalized as lobbying or conveniently free vacation gifts.
All the US-funded sources just say 1000+ executions per year, no hard numbers, IDK where their stats come from. Give me hard per-capita numbers. China is the 2nd-largest country on Earth, so should on average execute the 2nd-most number of people. IDK why India doesn’t execute anyone, lots of gang rapists there deserve it.
Culturally, Chinese people broadly support execution. China doesn’t have US-style racism, so minorities aren’t falsely executed.
The cited WaPo article talks about China executing 4 Chinese citizens, who failed to report their Canadian citizenship to the Chinese government, on drug smuggling charges. Think about how many people’s lives those drugs could have destroyed. I think they deserve it. Interestingly, Canada didn’t complain about their arrest, imprisonment, or sentencing, only their execution to make China look bad.
How can “socialists” still believe this debunked shit? Is China bombing Xinjiang like Israel is nuking Palestine?
I’m not knowledgable on these cases. Can someone else look into this?
I’m not super knowledgable on the first bunch of cases. Can someone else look into this?
The first article talks about several cases, including one where students were arrested for supporting an independent trade union. China has an official national union, the All-China Federation of Trade Unions. Interestingly, most independent trade unions in China operate as US-funded NGOs.
The second article talks about fallout after the arrest of Bo Xilai, Party Secretary of Chongqing, and associates for corruption and corruption-initiated murder. According to court proceedings, Wang Lijun, chief of police and vice-mayor of Chongqing, learned that Bo Xilai’s wife Gu Kailai murdered British businessman Neil Heywood because he charged too high a fee for illegally sending tons of money out of China. After finding out and trying to talk about the issue with Bo Xilai, Bo retaliated against Wang Lijun, first demoting him and then attempting to arrest him. In fear of his life, Wang Lijun went to the US embassy for protection, then to Beijing once the Chinese government found out. Initially, the central government did not believe Wang Lijun’s accusations, denouncing him as a traitor. Later they changed their tune and arrested Bo, probably after finding out the depth of Bo Xilai and co’s corruption. Because Bo Xilai had a lot of political allies, and had garnered some public support due to some of his policies, his takedown caused a bunch of chaos that the Chinese government tried to calm with selective censoring.
The entire saga is somewhat reminiscent of the corruption case shown in the Chinese TV show In the Name of the People. Watch that to understand the political chaos that ensued.
I’m not knowledgable on these cases. Can someone else look into this?
China is culturally conservative. Pornography of real people is probably not good for people’s development.
you know it’s gonna be a banger (sarcastic) when it starts by saying the Uyghurs are a “Turkic” people.
edit: oh my god… “(Uyghurs still often prefer to refer to their homeland by the older term, East Turkestan.)” Why did you type East Turkestan in English. Why not in Uyghur. Because it doesn’t exist in Xinjiang, that’s why. Nobody but the CIA diaspora believes in East Turkestan. Some people shouldn’t be allowed to write.
Additional comment since it’s another thing entirely. This is not true anymore. Their info is severely out of date, like most westerners when they speak about China. Nowadays “sweatshops” (they mean factories) even have trouble finding employees because the new generation doesn’t want to do it. They have other opportunities. It’s come to the point where some factories will lodge you, feed you, and pay you a sign-on bonus on top of your normal wage. Many younger people in China do it as a summer job.
I knew I had issues with Current Affairs and this is why. Using the aesthetic of Marxism with none of the actual substance. Doing a shoutout to Marx and expecting everyone to turn their heads and bow in reverence at the name drop. I don’t even know where Marx ‘railed’ against 19th century factories, he probably did, but his bigger point was not so much the conditions of the factories but the condition of the proletariat. They’re making him seem like a socdem… because that’s what they are.
Some of your questions will be great in another separate post. This will help knowledgeable people to answer each one.
Thanks for the tip! I’ll gather a few more answers here and make a separate post in a day or two.