Griping about not full sovereignty, air space, etc. totally disregards the daily lives of actual Palestinians.
You can’t live a ‘good life’ as a less than full state when your neighbor is Israel. We’ve got >30 years of history showing us what Israel does when Palestine is less than a full state, e.g., the West Bank, and the illegal Israeli settlers that burn out and kill Palestinians to run them off their land.
How casually you advocate for pointless deaths of Palestinians as inevitable is frankly disgusting.
I’m not advocating for it; I’m stating that pointless deaths of Palestinians are inevitable, unless and until the rest of the world turns Israel into an international pariah. We did it with South Africa; there’s no reason we can’t do it to Israel.
Israel has kept the peace with Jordan and Egypt and respected the borders.
Since Hamas came to powering Gaza, Palestinians had deeply divided political leadership. There hasn’t been peace among Palestinians for decades now.
South Africa was a very different situation. The ANC had different demands and acted very differently from Palestinian organizations as well. External pressure on South Africa helped. However the essential part was the white minority government believing the ANC, that there won’t be reprisals after a transition of power.
Hoping for Israel to become an international pariah is one thing. North Korea does just fine as an international pariah for example. Israel as a pariah would turn into an authoritarian religious regime, that would simply expel all Palestinians from the whole land. Israel would become just another brutal authoritarian regime like many in the region.
You can’t live a ‘good life’ as a less than full state when your neighbor is Israel. We’ve got >30 years of history showing us what Israel does when Palestine is less than a full state, e.g., the West Bank, and the illegal Israeli settlers that burn out and kill Palestinians to run them off their land.
I’m not advocating for it; I’m stating that pointless deaths of Palestinians are inevitable, unless and until the rest of the world turns Israel into an international pariah. We did it with South Africa; there’s no reason we can’t do it to Israel.
Israel has kept the peace with Jordan and Egypt and respected the borders.
Since Hamas came to powering Gaza, Palestinians had deeply divided political leadership. There hasn’t been peace among Palestinians for decades now.
South Africa was a very different situation. The ANC had different demands and acted very differently from Palestinian organizations as well. External pressure on South Africa helped. However the essential part was the white minority government believing the ANC, that there won’t be reprisals after a transition of power.
Hoping for Israel to become an international pariah is one thing. North Korea does just fine as an international pariah for example. Israel as a pariah would turn into an authoritarian religious regime, that would simply expel all Palestinians from the whole land. Israel would become just another brutal authoritarian regime like many in the region.
Unfortunately, that’s looking like it may happen anyway.