Okay, so who in the government is responsibility for preventing politicians from going after their political enemies? Who isn’t doing their job right now?
If it’s just the courts, we’re fucked. They’re overworked and legal cases take way too long to stop this. And of course congress is bought and paid for.
Okay, so who in the government is responsibility for preventing politicians from going after their political enemies? Who isn’t doing their job right now?
The Constitution has several built in guild lines to stop this. Those do not matter when the fascist party takes over the house and government. They don’t matter when people refuse to stand and fight to protect our society.
When people aren’t willing to stand up there is no protection that would work. It wouldn’t matter what lines were in the constitution because the president is already ignoring all of it with full support from congress.
Don’t blame the constitution. Blame the congress people for not doing their jobs. Blame the government workers for not standing up in full for what is right and instead handing access to doge. Blame the voters for being stupid enough to vote in Republicans in the first place.
The Constitution has one final line to stand on. The last line of defense, the 2nd amendment.
It’s quite literally why in previous times, when we weren’t neck deep in fascists, the DOJ was supposed to be INDEPENDENT from the executive branch, not run by his personal fucking lawyer
Republicans used to pitch a major bitch when it even smelled like the president and AG were friendly, now it’s expected that the AG works as the presidents attack dog… It’s exactly why we’re so fucked. There’s no teeth to the supposed checks against the president if the DOJ is in his pocket.
It was 19 years, and it was a letter from Thomas Jefferson to James Madison.
The TL; DR of it is, Jefferson used the best actuarial data he had (which we now know is flawed, but his point still remains) and determined that every 19 years, the voting electorate would be made up of voters fewer than 50% of which would have been old enough to vote for the laws in effect. In other words, more than half of voters (aka adults) would be subject to laws they would not have been old enough to vote for at the time they were passed.
His reasoning therefore was to basically “redo” government every 19 years, so that at no point could anyone be subject to a law they didn’t have a say in voting for.
Built to fail? The Constitution worked, more or less, for over 237 years and 44 different presidents. It hasn’t even failed yet now, although it is in a lot of danger.
It’s the job of Congress to stop the President from doing this, via impeachment. However, in a democracy the people get to choose their leaders and if the people elect not just a man like Trump to be President but also a majority in Congress to support him almost unconditionally, then the people get what they voted for.
Even now, Republicans in Congress fear that they will not be re-elected now if they oppose Trump. Thus they’re still carrying out the will of the people.
… if the people elect not just a man like Trump to be President but also a majority in Congress to support him almost unconditionally, then the people get what they voted for.
this includes the democrats who vote for his candidates and bills.
Especially with this ridiculous pardon rights of the president. Trump could just order some fanatic FBI agent to shoot Letitia James and pardon him even in advance.
Also, as long as the crime happens outside of DC, the pardon wouldn’t be able to prevent charges from being filed at the state level.
That said, it’s still a ridiculously broad power that should absolutely be severely restricted or eliminated with a constitutional amendment. Which would probably only happen if a Democrat started using the pardon power to protect people who were going after Republicans.
Okay, so who in the government is responsibility for preventing politicians from going after their political enemies? Who isn’t doing their job right now?
If it’s just the courts, we’re fucked. They’re overworked and legal cases take way too long to stop this. And of course congress is bought and paid for.
So the constitution was built to fail. Got it.
The Constitution has several built in guild lines to stop this. Those do not matter when the fascist party takes over the house and government. They don’t matter when people refuse to stand and fight to protect our society.
When people aren’t willing to stand up there is no protection that would work. It wouldn’t matter what lines were in the constitution because the president is already ignoring all of it with full support from congress.
Don’t blame the constitution. Blame the congress people for not doing their jobs. Blame the government workers for not standing up in full for what is right and instead handing access to doge. Blame the voters for being stupid enough to vote in Republicans in the first place.
The Constitution has one final line to stand on. The last line of defense, the 2nd amendment.
It’s quite literally why in previous times, when we weren’t neck deep in fascists, the DOJ was supposed to be INDEPENDENT from the executive branch, not run by his personal fucking lawyer
Republicans used to pitch a major bitch when it even smelled like the president and AG were friendly, now it’s expected that the AG works as the presidents attack dog… It’s exactly why we’re so fucked. There’s no teeth to the supposed checks against the president if the DOJ is in his pocket.
The founding fathers wanted it to be rewritten every 15 years or so.
Where can I find the evidence for this? I want to read more about it.
It was 19 years, and it was a letter from Thomas Jefferson to James Madison.
The TL; DR of it is, Jefferson used the best actuarial data he had (which we now know is flawed, but his point still remains) and determined that every 19 years, the voting electorate would be made up of voters fewer than 50% of which would have been old enough to vote for the laws in effect. In other words, more than half of voters (aka adults) would be subject to laws they would not have been old enough to vote for at the time they were passed.
His reasoning therefore was to basically “redo” government every 19 years, so that at no point could anyone be subject to a law they didn’t have a say in voting for.
Thank you!!
I believe it was discussed in the Federalist papers too
Built to fail? The Constitution worked, more or less, for over 237 years and 44 different presidents. It hasn’t even failed yet now, although it is in a lot of danger.
It’s the job of Congress to stop the President from doing this, via impeachment. However, in a democracy the people get to choose their leaders and if the people elect not just a man like Trump to be President but also a majority in Congress to support him almost unconditionally, then the people get what they voted for.
Even now, Republicans in Congress fear that they will not be re-elected now if they oppose Trump. Thus they’re still carrying out the will of the people.
this includes the democrats who vote for his candidates and bills.
Especially with this ridiculous pardon rights of the president. Trump could just order some fanatic FBI agent to shoot Letitia James and pardon him even in advance.
Actually no. Pardons cannot cover future actions.
Also, as long as the crime happens outside of DC, the pardon wouldn’t be able to prevent charges from being filed at the state level.
That said, it’s still a ridiculously broad power that should absolutely be severely restricted or eliminated with a constitutional amendment. Which would probably only happen if a Democrat started using the pardon power to protect people who were going after Republicans.
Oh, thanks. Good to know. But Trump could still pardon him the minute after and DC is a great place to kill your political opponents.