Americans thinking its okay to limit the travel rights of Israeli citizens due to the actions of the government of Israeli….

Do you think US Citizens travel rights should have been limited after the nuclear attack on civilians of Hiroshima? Do you think it should have been applied to US Citizens after the second nuclear attack on Nagasaki? Do you think it should apply to US citizens after the unprovoked attack and invasion of Iraq? What about the invasion of Afghanistan? (Since the taliban refused to give up Osama Bin Laden due to the rules of their religious law on always protecting human lives who seek refuge)

Do you think US citizens are held to a different standard as Israeli citizens?

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    I think you shouldn’t quit your day job, because this is nonsense. Nobody thinks this. I don’t even understand what you’re trying to prove here.

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      Do you think people use social media for work? Alarming attempt to silence and opinion without an actual rebuttal.

      I’m guessing youre an american whose taxes have funded multiple occupations and invasions. destabilizing the entire middle east, now thinking your genocidal american opinion matters.

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          Gravitas_Deficiency hates islamic iraqis and doesnt even care US invaded and murdered millions of civilians.

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          bro you literally started your comment with an ad hom and you wanna Police my speaking style? okay.

          how has what israel has done to hamas since oct 7th is worse than what the US army unleashed on iraq/syria from 2002-current?

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    Firstly, I’m not American, so I have an outsider’s view of their impact on the world (albeit still a western one).

    Secondly, I don’t think you’re going to get a clear yes/no answer to your questions. You’ve presented at least three different types of situation:

    1. Citizens of a country (Israel) having restricted travel rights in a second country (US) due to objections raised by the second country with regards to how the first country (Israel) is treating a third group (Palestinians).
    2. Wartime actions where a country (US) took action against an aggressor (Japan).
    3. The violation of sovereignty of another nation (Iraq or Afghanistan) by a larger military power (US) due to terrorist activity and/or highly questionable security concerns (e.g. the false claim of WMDs in Iraq).

    Each of these has different complicating factors and a different answer depending on whether you are looking at whether it would be understandable for a country to implement restrictions, or whether it would justifiable (particularly by some moral standard).

    I feel like this is trying to ask if people have a consistent set of ethics or if they preference their own nation higher than others.

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      100% that was the intent. us got involved in iraq and afghan to combat islamic influence and retaliate for 9/11.

      israel is attacking hamas and palestinian people the exact same way.

      americans voted for and are culpable for the actions commited by their leaders in iraq and afghanistan, which caused millions of civilian deaths and casualties based on their government actions.

      to criticize the actions of israel as an american is now at best hypocritical. and if people are calling for restricting human rights (travel for israelis like Gal Gadot) then they must accept restrictions of american citizens travel for the impact their government had on civilians lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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    Nobody thinks this. Nobody besides a clown in America is concerned with anything other than how do I work 40+ hours, afford rent/mortgage and feed/care for my kids.

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      I think you’re overgeneralising here. Those are genuine, high-priority concerns, but there are plenty of people (both in the real world protesting and online) who are concerned with the activity of the US government, amongst other things.

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      I guess thats all that matters reicht?

      Power, US military dominance overseas, murdering muslims in iraq/syria/yemen, and also commenting so much anger at Israel! (the american social media user abcs.)

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        What the hell are you talking about? That is capitalism doing those things. Also If you think social media is real and not just bots and grifters you need to go outside and touch grass.