The show Psych used to be a favorite of mine. When rewatching it recently, there’s a string of episodes a few seasons in that are just straight up all racial stereotypes
That’s interesting. I rewatch psych (as my comfort show) all the time and couldn’t really think of anything egregious. Mind sharing which episodes?
It’s been a hot minute, and I don’t particularly want to spend too much time on it, but I think season 5 episode 1 was the final straw with how they handle Chinese culture.
I can no longer make it through a show with a laugh track. They just spoil the flow.
While they don’t always ruin the thing, so many old shows, movies, and music have a ton of blatant racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. sprinkled in that makes it less enjoyable. South Park’s Chef Aid album has a song that is a combo of Crystal Method, Ozzy, DMX, and I think Wu Tang called Nowhere to Run. It is pretty awesome, except for DMX inserting a few homophobic lines. That asshole ruined a great song!
Overall I notice mean jokes and cruel humor, which is still around to some extent but far less often without the person making the joke clearly an asshole. Stuff like Mel Brooks that included some humor about groups that were frequently mocked, but in a way that is mostly self aware parody, aged pretty well.
Mel Brooks
aged pretty well
Some stuff, yeah, but then you have Blazing Saddles. Woof.
Blazing Saddles is the epitome of Mel Brooks humor that has aged well. It’s an amazing satire of racism that is still on point for today (unfortunately).
Huh, I had the opposite reaction. I see your point about satirizing racism, but I couldn’t get past the gratuitous n-bombs every other line.
They are everywhere for a reason. The people who commonly drop n-bombs aren’t the heroes. Hell, the redemption of the town is that they’ll be less racist going forward.
Satirizing requires doing the thing being satirized, in this case racists being racist.
Tell me you don’t understand satire without saying you don’t understand satire.
If that’s what you got from my comment, you really shouldn’t be participating in this comment thread. Please leave the conversations for the grownups in the room, thanks.
All the grownups that downvoted you for being objectively wrong?
I rewatched the usual suspects for the upteenhundreth time, I think it lost a little bit of its magic. Michael Baldwins character is just a bit too camera hungry and angry for me, some of the scenes have just lost their luster. It’s still a 9/10, but after 20 years I think it’s no longer my 10/10 go to for a guaranteed love rewatch movie. It hurts. Have I become jaded?
I haven’t seen it in so long, I only remember one thing about it. Yup. THAT thing. We should look it up one of these days. Thanks for the reminder!
I’ve avoided rewatching Ace Ventura Pet Detective due to the transphobia
I recall in Boston Legal, William Shatner’s character said he liked Trump (this was before his presidency) and that has made me less interested in a rewatch
What happened in Ace Ventura Pet Detective?
Practically the whole movie is a trans joke. I rewatched it years ago and was so bummed out.
There’s a woman who is revealed to be trans and a bunch of guys start dry-heaving upon learning this information
Not defending the joke, but they were dry heaving because it’s implied that she made out with everyone on the police force, including Ace. Thinking about it that’s actually worse. Huh.
Having not seen the scene until recently by coincidence, based on the description, I thought it was more like an “incels can’t handle this” joke, but then saw it and saw it was used as the smoking gun for an embarrassing guilty verdict. It definitely has “this movie director has an axe to grind” vibes.
Not to mention Ace Ventura’s too-long scene of showering, burning his clothes, using a plunger to make himself throw up etc. So you kissed someone you didn’t know was trans, grow up.
I never got the puking scene at the end of Ace Ventura as a kid. I still don’t really do. Always loved that movie but that is just too much.
It’s an homage (or whatever you would call it) to The Crying Game iirc.
I thought it was implying that all of those men had made out with her.
Yes. My interpretation is that the above person knew that, but they didn’t think it was even a remotely funny joke, not that they didn’t understand what the implication was.
Indeed. And that encourages a “trans people are icky” sentiment.
CBS laugh tracks are like nails on a blackboard to me now.
White noise laughter tracks wind me up no end. All the hype and screaming on comedy like it’s an opera or Ellen show is also painful to experience.
I might just be turning into a grumpy old fart but I also refuse to accept that people want awful pop music plumbed into our supermarkets and dance music in restaurants - why does everything degenerate into a nightclub setting?
I used to enjoy The Six Million Dollar Man as a kid. Tried watching it a few years ago but I could stand the high-pitch music that seemed to always be playing.
Gremlins, watching it as an adult I realized it is not suitable for young kids 😅
Like hell it isn’t. I watched that as a young kid and it’s been a favorite ever since.
It is the movie that led to the creation of the PG-13 rating, though.
Man… I remember having fond memories of it. Plus, sort of a Christmas flick. So come winter break, I turn it on for my eight year old. I get to cooking dinner and about 45 minutes in, he’s shaking from it. He slept in our room for the first time in years that night. And the next night. And the next.
Literally just told his mom he’s still scared of gremlins. This will be one of the parenting regrets.
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The opening to Full Metal Jacket hasn’t, uh, hasn’t aged well.
Can i ask everyone to please watch the movie M * A * S * H in honour of Donald Sutherland passing… And share then share your experience here.
Im very curious how it will be received, i wont be surprised by some problematic aspects, but it was an impactful movie (and tv show)
I think they dealt with subject matter that might be important in this current era
I am also looking to watch the tv show at some point. Which onr should I watch first, the tv show or the movie?
I’m not that knowledgeable on either, but if I remember rightly you also have the choice of watching the TV Show as it was broadcast in the USA or as it was broadcast in the UK (and maybe elsewhere) - the main difference being that the USA one has a laugh track added.
I may have some of the details wrong, but just FYI.
If you can then watch it without the laugh track first.
I think it’s a personal choice, or at least i didn’t have any specific reason not to watch the movie first. They are a fair bit different but if you watch the series first that’s a lot of Alan alda to unsee if you watch the movie afterwards so i think it’s better for your movie experience if watch it before the series, and it was released first so there’s that
I watched tons of anime. Now everything feels like a redo of something from years before and it’s hard to get into anything. I feel the same about movies.
I have never had patience for anime that goes on and on for hundreds of episodes. I find a lot of modern anime to be annoying in how flat and boring the presentation is.
That said, I have recently enjoyed both SpyXFamily and Dungeon Meshi. They both have quality to the art and as of yet feel like the are going somewhere and not intended to go on for 500 episodes.
Thanks for the recommendations.
I have problems with a lot of scripted television now when I used to love it as a kid.
Hell, I have problems with some parts of TNG because there science has progressed so much since then. THE EXOCOMS ARE SPECIAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE SAPIENCE, THEY AREN’T LIFE!
Oh man. So many and so much. Most of the “comedy” from the 80s, 90s, early 2000s is unwatchable. Older movies are sometimes straight up disgusting. I think it’s a sign for how we grow as a society to be more aware of the sexism, racism and other forms of disrespect that has been sold as comedy or just as “normal”. I consume much more consciously and through a more meta lense. For reference: I’m turning 40 this year
I tried to rewatch John Tucker Must Die as something to have on in the background the other night, and wooow did that not hold up. I only made it to where they give him estrogen (which is insane and terrible) and he starts acting like a stereotypical “girl on her period” before I bailed. So many of the movies targeted at teenagers and young adults in that era are so bad. They went all in on punching down, and the amount of rape and sexual assault is wild in retrospect.
There are so many examples of anti trans sentiment in older comedy. Just about all of them hinging on the “you can always tell” myth and/or highlighting how obviously won’t and confused the poor trans people must be. For someone whose only exposure to tabs people was that for a long time, I can start to how damaging and limiting that was.
I like to watch those old shows because they are reminders that we really have made significant progress in my lifetime.
Primary source materials, really. A great window into the past.
superhero movies. when the first Tobey Maguire Spiderman premiered, it was magical. i had wished for this exact thing for years.
now i can stand any of them. they’re cringe af, like watching a bunch of toddlers play pretend grown up.
Watched Beetlejuice with the kids last night. Not as funny as I remember, and they weren’t laughing either.
OTOH, we all thought The Lost Boys was still pretty cool.
Blazing Saddles next?
Blazing Saddles still holds up
Blazing saddles was written with the golden rule of offensive comedy: don’t punch down or up, punch in all directions.
Beetlejuice was never funny, so much as it was fun and weird.
It’s hard line between classic and temporary. Anything that follows trend hard usually doesn’t last the test. Things that try to relive the past usually don’t last.
