• Dojan@lemmy.world
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    This is just PR bullshit.

    We have a nazi party in the government, and Sweden is the origin of Chat Control. Don’t idolise nations.

    Edit: Oh and yeah, we didn’t get rid of forced sterilisation of trans people until 2013.

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      I mean, the Czech constitutional order to strike down the sterilization requirement comes into effect of the last day of June this year, 2013 is not that bad. Oh Czechia still hasn’t even recognized gay marriage yet.

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      Yeah, I was going to mention even Israel promotes how moral their troops are. Saying something does not make it true.

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      All nation states are vermin, and fascism is the plague. No state is immune, every one is a potential carrier.

      The kind of centralization of power that nation states represent will always be a plague reservoir for authoritarianism.

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      Against Försvarsmakten’s wishes as they use Signal for comms. But our dear politicians know best, clearly. Like the other year when the Liberal party almost collapsed in on itself due to a split in opinion on whether or not incest should be legal. One part was like “ew no you shouldn’t fuck your cousin” and the other being “the government doesn’t get to decide who I fuck!”

      It’s almost like all countries have problems.

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        It’s almost like all countries have problems.

        If you have a better nominee for leader of the free world, I’m all ears.

        We have only imperfect candidates.

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          I don’t think we should have any nominee. It’s a silly notion.


          Edit: So the reason for this is I think it’s a bad idea to idealise nations. Like you say there is no perfect candidate. We can acknowledge the good things a country does, while also recognising the bad things. Putting a country on a pedestal risks spreading an unrealistic view of it. Nuance is good.

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            Nuance is good, sure, but that’s not the same as saying there shouldn’t be models for emulation. Just as stripping a culture of its heroes does not destroy the need of individuals to find heroes, but rather decentralizes and deregulates who those heroes are (and what they might represent), so too with nations.

            There is a void in leadership in the international community regarding Western democracies now that the US has effectively abdicated in an… unpleasant manner. Arguably we’ve been unworthy of the unofficial title for a long time now, but maintained the reputation through inertia and a lack of willingness of anyone to challenge us on it. If there is no model, we splinter and find our own models - each of which has a very high chance of being a much more imperfect candidate than Sweden.

            So why not Sweden?

            It doesn’t require us to ignore Sweden’s faults, no more than Europeans ignored America’s faults even when she was most deserving of the position. It doesn’t require Swedes to stop demanding better of their country - demanding better of one’s country is how you stop yourself from falling into stagnation and… well, what the US is experiencing.

            It is only a request to celebrate that democracy and liberty are more than ideals; they can be executed in the real world, and the proof is right there, in a currently functioning society, even if an imperfect one. It is not simply something that the local idealists are saying can happen; it is something that has happened, that is happening, and that is better than oligarchy and serfdom.

            And, of course, to bring to bear that reputation in favor of those ideals on the international stage.

            If you can somehow get the EU to agree for more than ten seconds, the EU would be a prime contender. But let’s face it, one-country-veto-power kind of fucks that in such a large organization.

            If all of that isn’t enough and Swedes are still against it, I vote for Canada instead

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    “our right to live as we choose”

    So you admit homosexuality is a choice after all? Checkmate, liberals.

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    Pug, i pray Jesus become real to you. I pray you have a desire to seek out what is pure and true. I pray that God blesses you in the things you put your hands to. I pray for clarity of your mind. I pray for peace and love for you brother. May God open your eyes to what is important, and give you the strength and energy to endeavor in righteous pursuits. Present to your bothers and sisters what would be positively encouraging. May your decisions be inspired by the goodness of God… Amen.

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    The “based Swedish military” also does Neo-colonialism in Mali, and helped America invade Afghanistan but sure rainbow washing is totally cool.

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    Northern Europe does seem to have their shit mostly together compared to everyone else (except probably China) at the moment.