The justices said no action should be taken to pursue the deportations of any alleged Venezuelan gang members in Texas under the rarely used wartime law.
The justices said no action should be taken to pursue the deportations of any alleged Venezuelan gang members in Texas under the rarely used wartime law.
This is literally the opposite of whet you just wrote. They supported Boasberg’s injunction 7-2. He is the one that will be charging them with contempt, not SCOTUS.
Orangeboi and the ruling regime have already directly violated orders from the Supreme Court. Why do you think this particular decision is going to give him pause?
That’s still missing the point of he’s gonna do it anyways…
Then the parties involved will be charged with contempt of court. Courts are slow. There are many steps to this process. If you want this done quickly, convince the loyalist Republicans in Congress to vote against his executive order. Defeatism is useless criticism.
Guess what department handles justice and creating charges…?
The SCOTUS only has the ability on paper to interpret the law …not enforce
Courts ARE slow! And that’s the loop hole people with shit loads of money use to make sure they are never punished.
They just Lawyer up with the most expensive ones they can find, then ask them every way they can contest the court. Then they pay to contest it.
Often waiting years for sentencing. Where in that time they get the laws changed and make favors so when you are sentenced, it’s a get out of jail free card.
Sometimes the Epstein way. Who ran a child porn and trafficking empire for decades and never served justice, nor will any of his clients.
Courts will remain slow as long as those who are paid most are great at slowing things down for their clients.
Like a President with 34 felonies and no sentencing. Or the same president committing the largest single national security breach in all of American history and will never see trial.
I want to believe in our court system. Because it was nice to feel like Justice was neutral and fair.
But over the last 2 decades I’ve seen dumptrucks of crime dissolve American society, and little to no punishment from a court too slow to fight all the money evil people now have.
In 2008, there was a financial crisis that the media says was handled well. Except the system that was to be put in place to monitor fruad, the CAT system, has had its implementation delayed until 2024. When it started to finally, finally be used to monitor tlfinancial errors. And there were billions.
Then the Trump admin delayed it’s necessity until 2027.
19 years later. A fix for the problem in Wallstreet from 2008. In that time, they just got better at hiding what they’re doing. And now it’s another house of cards that Trumps too much of an idiot to keep standing.
That’s not justice. That’s a joke.
You still don’t get it. These ruling DO NOT MATTER if they are not enforced, and they will not be.
Do you honestly think a high US court is going to deputize some random people to go and arrest members of the Trump administration?
What exactly do you think is going to happen from this point?
Defeatism may be useless criticism but we’re living in a world where misplaced optimism may be deadly. What are you advocating for here? The person you’re responding to is almost certainly correct in their assessment of what will happen next, and that seems worth discussing.
I find your response confusing.
I’m advocating realism through comprehension of the situation. SCOTUS has twice now upheld the federal court orders regarding these deportations. The concern about the judiciary not having their own enforcement arm is negotiable through a court appointed attorney, a writ to law enforcement, or by deputizing in the most extreme case.
This doesn’t mean he can’t pardon those involved, but that would be an outright admission of guilt, and most certainly prompt the revolution that everyone seems to be so hungry for.
They had 4 fucking years to do something.
Look where that got us…
I’m not American, but as a Canadian even I have my pitchfork and cocktail ready.
Clearly. You don’t understand the urgency behind active checks and balances to maintain a government’s function and a criminal prosecution case of a former president.
This can’t be swept under the rug or pushed out on a calendar.
There is no such thing as active checks and balances anymore. That whole system is, as we speak, being actively proven to be completely meaningless.
Have you been reading the news at all? Active checks and balances are in shambles and the constitution is being used as toilet paper.
Judges that try to hold the administration accountable for anything are being ignored and labeled “activist judges”
The House let the “No Rogue Rulings” act pass onto the senate. If they pass it, it legitimatizes administration’s decision to ignore lower court orders.
Republicans are scared of speaking out or acting against Trump.
The administration is trying to weaponize the IRS against educational institutions that don’t fall into line.
Musk is dismantling social services while lining his own pockets and feeding government data and PII into his company’s LLM.
People are being kidnapped out of their cars and homes by ICE and sent to a concentration camp with zero oversight.
ICE is going to schools and trying to take people’s kids to lure out their parents.
Citizens are being “accidentally” kidnapped by ICE.
You seem to have the criticism down, but where is the proposed action? What do you suggest we do?
I seem to recall a line from some tattered old piece of parchment… I think it begins with “when a long train of abuses and usurpations…”
I recommend reading until the word “security”. In fact, I’m pretty sure that it has something to say about what it is our duty to do…
Doing what you’re doing and protesting, calling Republican representatives, and voicing an opinion is the only civilized path forward if that’s still even possible. Republican Party members have to turn on Trump, Vance, and The Heritage Foundation/Project 2025 if there’s going to be any chance of a peaceful resolution to their path of destruction. As long as he’s protected by the party line and insulated from impeachment, he’s going nowhere.
I don’t think asking the courts to do anything is the answer, however. Trump’s government has proven that they don’t give a single shit about what the judiciary has to say. They’re happy to ignore orders and they receive zero consequences for doing so. The only court they might consider listening to, the Supreme Court, is filled with Republican judges and judges Trump personally put there. They’re as good as useless, and they helped create the problem with their ruling giving sitting presidents immunity from any consequences of vaguely-defined “official acts”.
I agree. That’s why I wrote that SCOTUS ruling to uphold the stay is reassuring.
Clearly you don’t understand that violence is needed here.
I’m not saying it should be swept under the rug. I’m saying it’s time to take to the streets and SHOW what you want.
The only language they’ll listen to now is violonce.
Trump has already said he’s not returning the wrongly deported person. Why would he suddenly start listening to the courts?
Be my guest. I’m non-violent, and our system has yet to fail. That doesn’t mean it can’t, but I’m not accepting defeat until then.
He said that, and now his administration is facing a contempt of court hearing on the 23rd. The presiding judge preemptively stated that he will appoint an attorney to enforce his order if the DoJ refuses to do so.
Trump bluffs. He’s a bullshitter. Harvard called him on it and now he’s saying the letter was sent in error. He can’t talk his way out of this.
It’s already failed.
Cool, then you go ahead and storm the Capitol. I have faith in the courts.
And how many more people will be shipped off while the courts “work”?
To El Salvador? Zero, according to this final appeal attempt. They’re still deporting people to other nations.
Had people not abandoned Democrats at the polls in November, Congress could’ve already stopped this. Their action is much faster than the judiciary.