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    Is that what the science actually say? Because I remember during the early COVID reading a research paper publish 6 months prior to the outbreak by Wuhan Lab studying the exact same thing.

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        2018 - June : Discovery of Novel Bat Coronaviruses in South China That Use the Same Receptor as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29669833/

        They published this paper , they were studying the virus family, in the lab , in the city that it first detected from. A lab knowing for not being up to code, have concern of Chinese government using it to work on biological weapons, among other things.

        At the end it doesn’t matter if it is from a lab or not and I am not sure why people get very offended by it. I understand if the cheesiness government tried to hide it, but people in the state calling people conspiracy theorist for suggestion that is crazy.

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          A regional center for studying potential pandemic viruses studies a virus detected in its region. This is utterly unprecedented. /s

          If that lab were doing CBW research, it would never have been publishing in open international journals.

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          Yes, and further studies have shown that the strains in the lab and the strain that became Covid 19 were too different to have come from the same place.

          We’re calling people conspiracy theorists because they’re peddling a conspiracy theory.

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            the strains in the lab and the strain that became Covid 19 were too different to have come from the same place

            do you have the research for that ?

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                The US Government Report ?? that mainly talk about the involvement of the USA cooperation with Wuhan lab, and searching for strain in the document doesnt bring anything useful to your claim??

                I was expecting at least a EU research or WHO reports explaining why “the strains are not the same” or a peer review article not something from the US government that politicized the whole thing that people are label conspiracy theorist for pointing out clear concern…

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                  The report is riddled with sources that aren’t government based. It’s filled with scientific data.

                  Again, it’s just democrats saying listen to the scientists.

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                    I really don’t understand why you defending this report like it is a religions text when they have written in bold font

                    “Republicans’ Investigation Did Not Uncover the Origins of COVID-19—Both Pathways Remain Plausible, and We Are More or Less Where We Started”

                    They report even conclude with details of what it is about. 1) baseless attack by republican against Fauci 2) misconduct regarding New York nursing homes 3) CDC’s school reopening guidance

                    All of which have nothing to do with “Proof that covid was not a leak because the strain are different”

                    Like even reading further they literary say the same thing as I am saying:

                    the origins of COVID-19 are unknown. A zoonotic origin and lab accident are both plausible, as is a “hybrid” scenario reflecting a mixture of the two. It was repeatedly explained to the Select Subcommittee that all prior epidemics and pandemics, as well as almost all prior outbreaks, have zoonotic origins. At the same time, a lab origin for COVID-19 also remains plausible. Although arguments for a lab origin are largely circumstantial, they cannot and should not be dismissed out of hand. However, one thing that nearly all witnesses who testified on this issue agreed upon was that without greater transparency from the Chinese Communist Party, it will be difficult, if not impossible, to know the origins of COVID-19.

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        Proof from the democratic party isn’t proof, they’re also corrupt and take lobbyist cash. There’s also reason to believe the ties between the US and China specifically researching these kinds of viruses in a lab in the same area as where the outbreak started is very suspicious and more reason to not believe the “old power” in the US.

        Not that Trump and Co is any better, they want to topple the old power to bring about even worse things.

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            It’s not even a both sides, I’m simply stating facts.

            Blindly believing either political party because it aligns moreso with you is foolish, you should seek why they say the things they do and find potential conflicts of interest. By which unfortunately a large amount of democrats are entrenched in donor and lobbyist cash.

            Again it’s no contest that the Republicans are far worse and I have never advocated for voting for those ghouls. I’ve also voted Democrat in midterms and presidential elections consistently since I was old enough to do so. Not that it matters much living in a deep south state.

            I consistency have advocated to my friends and family that they need to ote Democrat because they are absolutely the lesser of the two evils, but it’d be great if the party would get the fuck out of the way and let progressive policy actually bring us into a better future. Yet all I’ve seen is the party bashing the progressives and being ineffectual themselves in preventing the rise of fascism in our country.

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          It’s not the democrats who are doing the tests and saying it wasn’t from a lab; it is scientists. Democrats are just saying the scientists are right

          Republicans themselves are calling themselves scientists and saying it was from a lab.

          See the difference yet?

          Stop peddling conspiracy theories.

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                And big oil paid scientists for years to claim lead in gasoline was fine actually and the government nodded along in agreement.

                Or that AIDS wasn’t that bad because it csn only effect homosexuals.

                Or that there were WMDs in Iraq.

                Sorry there’s plenty of reasons to question govt narratives.