Remember those million pre-orders Tesla allegedly had for the Cybertruck, according to CEO Elon Musk? It’s getting tougher and tougher for the company to explain where all of them went.
After putting around 50,000 Cybertrucks on the road, according to a recent recall filing, the company appears to be out of pre-orders and desperately looking to juice demand. Case in point: It’s now offering up to $10,000 off certain Cybertrucks it has in inventory.
so…they intentionally lied to artificially increase demand and make their product look more compelling? can we get some fucking consumer protections regulations for fucks sake?? they’re killing us out there
This would be a matter for the Securities and Exchange Commission to come crashing down on them. This kind of statement is designed to manipulate the market, and in a normal world, would be heavily punished.
Which is why they’re killing it.
No. The article doesn’t talk about preorders at all, and they are completely meaningless and obviously a “preorder” for a car with just a 100$ deposit doesn’t mean anything. That’s basically just signing up for a mailing list. The cyber truck as announced was ugly but with really good specs for only 40k$. It was shit and the price was minimum 70k so it didn’t sell well.
Preorders aren’t a legally defined or protected term or anything, who wants to regulate that? It’s basically just a list of emails signups so it doesn’t mean anything at all.
No it’s been doge’d by the dude who would personally benefit from it’s doge’ing.
Why do you think that was one of the first things Elon killed?
Good, but for fucks sake, can we get just a standard two door, full sized, long bed electric truck that can actually do some work and not be a god damn pavement princess, suburban male, penis extender?
Just get a hybrid Sienna, it comes with a free preinstalled cap on, AWD and sliding doors which shit on normal car/truck doors in terms of practical utility and capacity to do work.
I know this isn’t exactly what you were asking for, but this looks promising for people that want what essentially is the anti-cybertruck:
The Honda Ridgeline can be repurposed as a LPG truck, and the Ford Ranger Lightning is electric.
Many craft and trade people in Norway has embraced the Volkswagen Buzz
But both of them are on the larger side tho’
Got to poke around in a Buzz at a local euro car meet. They are larger inside than I imagined in pictures. I could see them being great for contractors in a stripped down version.
I lost my tacoma a few years back and have a 00 tdi golf with a roof rack and a tow hitch. Other than a couple times where I needed to get a lot of 4x8 sheets of subflooring it has handled everything I did with my truck. Water heaters , 12’ 6x6", loads of 2x4, 28’ ladders , scaffolding etc all go on the roof rack. I’ll probably never buy another truck. People joke around when I’m loading material, fuck em.
Given your opinions are on the reasonable side of truck owners
What advantage does a truck have over a panel van for work use?
Yes I’m European. Yes I actually want a truck for some unknown social reason. But every time I look at trucks I think the beds are either too small or I think my shit is going to get wet back there. An enclosed panel van has a bigger converted storage area.
Well I for one really don’t want to try and haul a load of manure in a panel van.
Don’t get me wrong, vans are great, my general contractor in-laws used them daily, but there are advantages like being able to haul a stack of plywood or sheet rock without having to have a trailer, being able to haul larger items more easily, towing, and again, easily hauling things like manure or rocks, just get the front loader and dump it in.
For 99% of owners a panel van would be the better option, but their masculinity is tied to other people’s perception of them, so they pay the small dick tax.
I rent a truck for the afternoon on the rare occasion I need one
I do heavy equipment/industrial/marine maintnace and fabrication work. The ability to overhead load things into the bed. Rather than being limited to what is on a pallet with a forklift. Being able have cargo that is longer than the bed of the truck and not have to drive with cab doors open. Being able to install a 5th wheel trailer to tow more than what the standard ball hitch allows. You shure aren’t going to make a tow truck out of a van. Bulk cargo? Just show up to quarry or dirt pit load a bucket full or 2 and of you go. Lots of reasons. These are just the basic examples. There’s lots more. From welding rigs to just being able to put a skid of drywall in with out hassle.
I mean, as far as I know Rivians aren’t that bad. Disclaimer I have done very little research I just know they look cool and aren’t owned by Musk.
My beef with Rivian is one I shared with Tesla- their chargers are closed to other brands. That’s a mask-off move in my opinion. It’s a business decision, not a technical one.
This might not be realistic, but if I had any electric vehicle, #1 item that would be in my trunk 24/7 is a portable charger and a long ass cable so I could eventually get going no matter what.
But also it says you can charge the car at “any public charger” including their “Adventure network” and tesla superchargers.
Any transportation technology that isn’t like, public seems like pick your poison to me, I was never happy about having to buy modern automobiles with spy chips that report your sexuality to the manufacturer for some reason.
A vehicle as a real tool? Blasphemy! We don’t do that here in America.
Where the hell would we mount the dashboard nacho cheese dispenser and 42" plasma touch display in a standard truck?
Seems unlikely considering the whole tariff situation
I see a few on the road or parked now and then. I cringe every time.
I sometimes think that for a future vehicle I might like to do an EV conversion on an older gas burning, small SUV. Now suddenly I struck by the idea of an EV to EV conversion, to get rid fo the Tesla computers full of spyware. It would still be recognizeable though, not good.
I don’t know, I think I’ve seen more than 2-3k of these trucks in Houston alone. Also someone keeps etching “Swastikar” into them. Rumor is they’re using an acid etchant like ferric chloride.
Tesla earnings call in 3 days!
Maybe this time the bullshit will be seen through, but I don’t have my hopes up. There are other forces at play keeping the stock up other than reality. It’ll be rationalized as “but robotaxis, AI, robots, etc”.
It’s the new Dacia pickup truck!
That lifted ute looks more capable than the Cyber Truck and more fun.
Err… I mean, OH NO, anyway
2025 model looks good to me. I need something I can do light towing with.
May I introduce my 1999 base engine VW Golf to you?
Excellent.
buying anything from Tesla is supporting the destruction of a country
Not in the good way either.
And supporting and encouraging the richest man in the world. Instead of making him richer, we need to bankrupt him, nationalize Space X and Starlink, and shut down anything else he was worming on.
Not my country.
Still not buying anything from that cunt though.
He’s working on it.
that’s the only compelling argument in favor of Tesla
Fuck you, I have to live here
you have all my sympathy because i also live here. i can only hope your state is as prepared as mine for the federal government to cease functioning as a force for good
I live in Kansas, so not really. Governor Kelly is the only thing keeping this place even remotely tolerable.
She is getting term limited out in the next election, so I’m really worried about who will replace her.
yeah. i can imagine life in swing states is gonna get pretty rocky
Accelerationists belong alone in a room with an accelerant and a book of matches.
the “accelerant” in question would be meth
Tesla couldn’t pay me to take possession of one of their vehicles, especially a Cybertruck.
I got tools. Lots of parts I can reuse
i would take one for money… but i’d cover completely in anti-musk stuff.
also, no autopilot
Tesla has started putting up to $10,000 on the hood of Cybertrucks.
Well that’s nice. Is this $10,000 up for grabs, or do you need to buy the truck first? Is it in one of those silver suitcases?
Don’t worry, papa Elon will pull some strings to get the government to take these turkeys off his hands.
Efficiency!
I’m surprised your cops aren’t all being forced to drive them. I’d love to see that.
It’s getting tougher and tougher for the company to explain where all of them went.
The price was the big one. It delivered at twice the initially advertised price. Took it from being very competitive with ICE trucks to costing much, much more.
The announced price was better than most EVs. I’m not interested in a truck but was tempted to preorder for the announced price and features. Now, years later, no effing way would I have followed through
Took it from being very competitive with ICE trucks to costing much, much more.
If you figure that most pickup trucks in 2025 aren’t really being used in the role that historically they held: inexpensive, no-frills utility vehicles — but as status symbols, expensive, large, luxurious vehicles — that’s not necessarily bonkers. In fact, it’s possible to make a vehicle more-desirable by making the price rise:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good
A Veblen good is a type of luxury good, named after American economist Thorstein Veblen, for which the demand increases as the price increases, in apparent contradiction of the law of demand, resulting in an upward-sloping demand curve.
The higher prices of Veblen goods may make them desirable as a status symbol in the practices of conspicuous consumption and conspicuous leisure. A product may be a Veblen good because it is a positional good, something few others can own.
Veblen goods such as luxury cars are considered desirable consumer products for conspicuous consumption because of, rather than despite, their high prices.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/ausbav/average_pickup_truck_prices_went_up_61_in_the/
Average pickup truck prices went up 61% in the last 10 years, far outpacing the market as a whole (up 28%) (paywall less article in comments)
I don’t know if I’d normally cite wolfstreet.com, but they’ve helpfully graphed the price of a new Ford F-150 versus a Camry over the years:
The pickup truck is primarily selling to a different market segment than it once did.
At this point, I literally wouldn’t drive one for free. My fury at Musk for the pointless destruction he’s done to this country overtook my curiosity for what it’s like to drive one of those huge, dumb, ugly vehicles with the glued-on panels.
I don’t even think I’d take a Freebie unless it was to immediately sell for cash.
They’re dangerous, expensive to own (iphone repair cost model applied to a fuckin car) and you look like you support this sort of thing, which is bad look.
I won’t drive the cybertruck or any of the other newer generation X’s and S’s since they all have yolks instead of steering wheels. A few years back I was rear-ended by a drunk driver on a highway. With about 1/2 second warning I suddenly found myself spinning 360 degrees across 3 lanes, and I was trying my best to steer out of it. I seriously doubt I would have been able to do that with a yoke. My hands likely would have missed as I tried to reposition them.
The yokes, like so many other “features” seem like nothing more than glitz that Musk demanded to differentiate Teslas from other cars. If an independent authority tests yokes vs. wheels in situations like that crash and finds the yokes are as good or better then I’d consider driving a car with one. But given Musk is now trying to kneecap things like NHTSA I’m most definitely not going to hold my breath.
Wow, that’s about the best argument for the traditional, time-tested wheel! How do the yolks even work, can you turn them more than 90°? Because if not, they’d have to function like a videogame controller, or have you risk losing your grip as the yolk moves out from under your grasp when you go hand-over-hand…
Don’t they also lack fucking door handles to get out in an emergency quickly? Tesla and genuinely shit made cars, from start to finish.
I just hate the fact that liberals helped boost his wealth by buying his shit.
Liberals purchasing vehicles didn’t boost his wealth, stock speculation did that.
That speculation was fueled by liberals buying Teslas.
Let’s take this in a different order without changing ideas presented:
liberals […] buying his shit
That pushed correlation == causation by labeling environmentally concerned people and people who like a post-petrol system as liberals. Not an accurate overlap, and inherently a bad-faith comparison …
helped boost his wealth
… used to demonize ‘liberals’, whoever the fuck that villianized label means today
I’d assert no one on the planet said “I want Elon to be richer and so I will pay way more for this car” despite its - honestly when it had lidar - best positioning for one-day self-driving and raft of amazing features alongside those abjectly dumb decisions about door-handles and (now) frame concerns and other safety requirements.
I’d want to see some kind of justification to this accusation those mean librulz were conspiring primarily to make fElon richer .
I just hate the fact that
Claiming this as a fact is just beggaring the question. And that’s what I hate.
They do have emergency handles underneath some paneling, but the defacto way of opening is a (touch) button
It’s not underneath anything, you pull up behind the handle in the door. It’s mechanical, so you can always get out. Not that you’d want to get in one in the first place.
Same. Wouldnt take one if they paid me.
If I got one for free I’d spend an afternoon dismantling it with a crowbar separating the steel from the aluminum to sell it for scrap, and I’d be the first person to make a profit from a cyber truck.
I’d take it. Wouldn’t drive it, but if they want to pay me to store their dumpster…
I’d take it for free and sell it at a big discount to one of his fanboys.
If someone offered me one for free or the option to pay them $10,000 for a Hummer EV, I’d have a new Hummer EV and a very unhappy partner.
Just sell to the UK or Europe. What’s that? It doesn’t meet road safety standard in the UK or Europe, well then guess someone fucked up
We gave them an exception in Canada even though they dont meet safety requirements. Absolutely fucked.
Wait, what?
This pile of crap is completely impossible to bring to market in any country with reasonable consumer protections and road safety standards. Maybe they could export them to Russia?
One is already on the front lines in Ukraine. On the Russian side, naturally.
Even the Russians will probably prefer to attack riding donkeys.
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musk inflates numbers to match his ego.
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many, many, people canceled their preorder when they discovered he’s a fucking asshole.
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several orders of magnitude more got tired of waiting and canceled because it too long to come out (also the base price went up by 20k,)
i remember it was 5 years before the cybertruck came out, when he showed the video and pics of the design, it hasnt changed since.
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It turns out to be one of the least reliable, worst made cars on the road at any price.
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Still uglier than an NFT.
The fact that it got a million pre-orders after he shattered 2 invincible windows on stage would have been a warning about the future of this place. Hindsight and all I suppose though.
And it’s the only Tesla designed by Elon Musk. The fraud bought his way to fame.
I love how you can tell exactly how it went down just by looking at the thing. Elon wanted a ton of specific and basically contradictory things, which led to a ton of compromises being made and corners being cut just to get it “done,” and the result is a literally flaming pile of shit.
Kinda feel bad for the engineer that had to bring a toddler’s drawing of a car to life but also fuck man, have some dignity. I’m sure his resume is good enough to go somewhere else if Elon fired him for telling him to pound sand.
I have a colleague who knows someone working at Tesla. Apparently Musk would walk the floor and declare “this isn’t cyber enough, make it more cyber” like the awful client in every freelance webdev joke of the last 30 years.
I’d be so tempted to tell him “cyber this, jackass” while flipping him off and walking out if I were there…
Bu but he knows more about manufacturing than anyone else alive right now! I laughed so hard when he said that, I dislocated my jaw.
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Hey in Simpsons Hit and Run that’s a decent mid game choice.
I’ll bet the build quality is higher on that thing.