Nobody watched Andor LOL.
Their right-wing mind does not understand metaphors to reality so they don’t see it
They won’t believe anything that does not match their world-view. If you say the guy is innocent, they just say Fox news told them he was in a gang, and they treat that as a fact.
There is no way to get to these people, unless the GOP inflicts personal pain on them, and even then…loyalty and “purity” is everything to them.
They would be vehemently against it if any other concievable administration did it.
Right wing star wars fans probably love the empire and wish they were darth vader. Just because they like a piece of media doesn’t mean that theyre interpreting it the way it was intended or the same way you are.
Which is why the Prequels were the worst thing ever. It made kids think Anakin Skywalker was a good guy and it’s the Jedi Council’s fault they didn’t give him the respect he deserved because he was strong and powerful. Dude was a creepy weirdo when talking to Padme, told her fascism was cool, massacred a village, but because he’s so powerful and awesome, Padme (a Senator) instantly becomes a trad wife.
Then came a bunch of cartoons showing how awesome this guy is (biggest Mary Sue ever) while making it seem like being a storm trooper would be a cool and honourable thing. And now we’ve got a bunch of video games that showcase how awesome and bad ass Darth Vader is.
It’s not like a pro-fascist interpretation of the Prequels comes out of nowhere. An adult watching those movies sees these things and dsimiss it as George Lucas phoning it in while making those movies because he only cared about toy sales. But it’s easy to see how a kid watching these movies would identify with Anakin Skywalker and be influenced towards having fascist tendencies.
Also The Last Jedi is the most misogynistic movie in the franchise if you ignore the marketing and think about how a child would interpret it. But that’s a story for another time.
It’s also why they love the old Disney shit so much. Because in many of the old movies it’s the aristocracy who are being portrait as the good guys and who defend the peace from turning into anarchy.
Maybe we’re not thinking of the same movies, but when I think of old Disney I don’t see that pattern:
- Snow White: an orphan girl, bullied by her step mom, flees into the woods to live with dwarfs, then becomes a princess because she’s pretty.
- Pinocchio: wooden puppet is given life by a fairy to reward its craftsman for being a good person.
- Fantasia: artistic vignettes
- Bambi: life of a deer.
- Cinderella: an orphan girl, bullied by her stepmom, becomes a princess because she’s pretty, with the help of a fairy who rewards her for being a good person.
To me it seems like the good guys are mostly attractive youths with a strong work ethic and no parents.
Most of them succed in life by marrying royalty though.
They love the Punisher, but perverted the purpose of the fictional hero
Alex Jones does exactly this. He’ll start talking about Star Wars, but it almost always turns into him doing a Vader voice saying he’s going to kill all the “globalists”. It’s a sight to behold, lemme tell ya.
It is like when Trump talks about Hannibal Lecter as his friend and a great guy.
Tell me Donald, does your face only look like a Cheeto, or does it also tastes like one? Let’s find out, shall we?
Probably tastes like sweat, and tanning solution
Yeah no shit. Everyone’s friggin asleep. Nobody realizes what they see is not some master plan or 4d chess. It’s consolidation of power for something very different than a democracy. A battle with the tech billionares afraid of death and a morally rotten to the core chewy center authoritarian up your heiney.
Remember when Eric Trump compared the Democrats to the Resistance and thought that was a burn?
Strange how the felons kids have stayed real quiet in the last few months…
I always mix up Eric and trump jr. I think trump Jr is the one that has been engaged to Ms Kimberly guillofoyle for the last 6 ulyrar
The Force AWOKEens
I poked my fan into the Star Wars Reddit fandom once, and it seemed like they hate Andor?
I was honestly baffled at the time. It’s like the best Star Wars thing I’ve ever seen.
Leftist and I honestly think it’s one of the most embarrassing pieces of Star Wars media to ever exist
Would you care to elaborate on why that is? I would say it’s easily the best piece of star wars media to come out since Disney took over, and arguably prior to that. It doesn’t get overly bogged down in trying to reference or shoehorn in references to other star wars characters like parts of The Mandalorian or the sequel trilogy and it tells a compelling and emotional narrative about the path one man takes to become a dedicated member of the resistance
Honestly only ranks below the original trilogy for me. It’s really fantastic on all levels.
To me, the original trilogy is… ok.
That’s probably why I’m not in the Star Wars fandom, heh.
Still, Andor felt so fundamental, quintessential Star Wars.
I’m a massive fan of Star wars and even the original trilogy are just meh for me. I much more prefer episode 3, clone wars, rebels, rogue one, andor and games like kotor
Star Wars depend on which age you experience it. Lots of people who’s old enough to watch the original trilogy on theaters are going to say that the OG trilogy is the best. People who grew up with the prequels are going to have similar taste like you.
To me, the original trilogy is… ok.
The original trilogy has a very mythological feel that none of the other works have ever managed to fully capture (and, honestly, that feeling was on the wane even as early as Episode 6). I can name the modern works, outside of Star Wars, that have that atmosphere on one hand. It’s a very delicate balance to get that atmosphere, and I think even the OT only succeeded at it by happy accident.
Still, Andor felt so fundamental, quintessential Star Wars.
I agree entirely. Can’t wait to see Season 2!
The original trilogy has a very mythological feel
First time I paid any attention watching the original trilogy was after playing Mass Effect, watching DS9, and consuming some other sci-fi/fantasy, even some other Star Wars stuff … I get what you’re saying, but I guess it didn’t strike me as “remarkably mythic” when I first saw it, and that might be because I’d already seen so much?
@[email protected] is getting at what I feel. Andor’s characters and the details of the worldbuilding are so strong. Same with KOTOR II. Even if they’re more inconsistent, rough, or ‘lacking wonder,’ that more than makes up for it to me.
“The original trilogy has a very mythological feel”
I can’t remember where I saw it, but I read something that part of why Andor feels so different to other Star Wars is that the original trilogy (OT) felt like a space opera — the characters exist on a stage, and the world around them ceases to be when the characters leave. This probably contributes to the “magic” of the original trilogy.
Andor, by comparison, has such strong world building and supporting cast that it feels like the world is real, and we only get a small glimpse into what’s going on. My favourite minor character was the dude who hits the anvil-bell thing; he takes his job so seriously that it gives a ritual feel to the job, and I get the sense that this is an honoured role.
I don’t think it’s better or worse than the feel of the original trilogy — just different — but Andor is refreshing because far too much of Star Wars has captured neither the mythological magic of the OT, or the realism of Andor. I think Andor is the last piece of Star Wars that I care about, so I’ll be devastated if season 2 is disappointing
Um, but… isn’t this the guy who murdered several guards and robbed star wars fort knox though.
Like, maybe killing cops and stealing from the government isn’t the most heinous crime, but he’s hardly wrongly accused. I’ll concede that they pegged him by accident and for different reasons – but if anything, the moral is “arrest enough people at random and you’ll get the real criminals too.”
That was part of the irony of the show. He did the crime, he got away with it, then he was falsely accused of another crime and thrown in prison. The people who were hunting him were pretty frustrated because they couldn’t find him, and they couldn’t find him because he was in prison under an alias.
He was wrongly accused of the crime that sent him to prison. He did commit the other crimes, killing the 2 guards and robbing Star Fort Knox, but they never caught him for those crimes.
Um, but… isn’t this the guy who murdered several guards and robbed star wars fort knox though.
What are you talking about? He’s just a tourist!
In andor the empire didn’t propaganda Photo of him with margaritas to appease the boot lickers
Media illiteracy is part of the reason they are right wing in the first place. They do not make those connections.
Also see: every conservative Trek fan
Their brains should be studied for science. How are they not crushed under the weight of their own contradiction?
It might partially be that Worf’s suggestion to shoot first and ask questions later tends to be the solution.
Or that TOS was progressive for the '60s but we caught up and passed it.
Or that Berman, who ran the franchise for the '90s shows, was actually pretty conservative and progressive messages had to be almost snuck past him.
Sadly some TOS seem progressive by today’s standards because the GOP dragged me that far back.
I wonder if one day we’ll say “Remember when Blade was a black guy? Ah the woke years.”
I shudder at the thought
they were bold enough to called SG1 woke.
Not the ones that thought The Boys superheroes were the good guys.
The protesters who LARPed being Homelander arresting Biden is just… ugh…
The dismissiveness is intense, no matter the fan base.
“I can’t watch Star Trek any more because it’s woke.”
Star Trek is the original, ultimate woke TV. Since the original series, they’ve always incorporated the “woke” of their times, starting with the casting of Uhura. The cast of Roots is sprinkled throughout, which includes Avery Brooks and Lavar Burton. They didn’t quite make it with a female second in command, she ended up as Nurse Chapel instead. Even so, Star Trek TOS is pretty woke for the times.
I can’t imagine blinders aren’t worn regarding the Empire as well. Granted, this comes from recognizing authoritarianism for what it is.
I THINK ITS specifically nutrek that broke thier minds, when they started to force all female leads, a bonus of lgbtq+ people. and not because the nutrek series were terrible compared to the Og ones.
Why would traitors care at all? They just need to be stopped at this point. Stop the machine, dismantle it, replace it.
