There is mandatory content moderation. Certain parties that stand to benefit from spreading disinformation call this censorship. And I see how this could be a slippery slope into cencorship.
But as of currently, I don’t see any major censorship going on here. But you should easily be able to prove me wrong: give me a thing I can find on a vpn that I can’t normally.
Who decides what counts as disinformation that should be censored? Most EU governments think they are the arbiters of this, and do so to protect the class interests of the capitalists which are their constituents. The definitions of questionable content change constantly as it’s about defending the status quo, not combatting “fake news.”
Relatively recently Germany has blocked Russian and Iranian media with DNS blockers (even before the start of Russian involvement in the war in Ukraine). Easy enough to circumvent if you know what you’re doing, but most people don’t.
Left leaning media like Junge Welt are on the surveillance list of the German constitutional protection agency, which makes operating normally extremely difficult. Nobody wants to work with them because they don’t want to be put on watch lists as well.
Austria and the UK are detaining journalists for daring to challenge the government narrative. Ukraine banned all non-state-sanctioned media pre-Russian invasion.
Ey, this argument was came up in the eu parlement just bit a go! It’s the slippery slope fallacy by the way. I wish the world was perfect and had no nuance. But in the end their job is to figute out how to do things right.
So that’s your answer in a way I suppose. They decide
You think too simply of the way the world works. There has to be someone protecting information in the news and online. Otherwise bad actors will spread their disinformation and make people believe ridiculous stuff.
That someone that protects has a difficult but important job. That someone is not one person. It’s people delegated by the european parlement.
I can dumb it down a bit more if you need. But it might not be as accurate anymore
yes 1.5 billion chinese don’t know their own recent history despite thousands of Beijingers being present around the protests (and thousands of out-of-town soldiers) and Deng Xiaoping meeting with the protesters on live TV. Of course. We whites are just much more enlightened and aware of the goings-on in the world, eh? The Chinese government has declassified documents related to the clearing of the square https://www.gov.cn/zwgk/2011-11/09/content_1989024.htm and released them in Chinese but nobody in China knows that Chinese website exists, thankfully there’s europeans who know where to find it to spread the truth.
What was your point? How did you understand the meme?
My point was that I think it’s hilarous to claim that there isn’t heavy state censorship of media in Europe.
There is mandatory content moderation. Certain parties that stand to benefit from spreading disinformation call this censorship. And I see how this could be a slippery slope into cencorship.
But as of currently, I don’t see any major censorship going on here. But you should easily be able to prove me wrong: give me a thing I can find on a vpn that I can’t normally.
Content moderation where?
Who decides what counts as disinformation that should be censored? Most EU governments think they are the arbiters of this, and do so to protect the class interests of the capitalists which are their constituents. The definitions of questionable content change constantly as it’s about defending the status quo, not combatting “fake news.”
Relatively recently Germany has blocked Russian and Iranian media with DNS blockers (even before the start of Russian involvement in the war in Ukraine). Easy enough to circumvent if you know what you’re doing, but most people don’t.
Left leaning media like Junge Welt are on the surveillance list of the German constitutional protection agency, which makes operating normally extremely difficult. Nobody wants to work with them because they don’t want to be put on watch lists as well.
Austria and the UK are detaining journalists for daring to challenge the government narrative. Ukraine banned all non-state-sanctioned media pre-Russian invasion.
Ey, this argument was came up in the eu parlement just bit a go! It’s the slippery slope fallacy by the way. I wish the world was perfect and had no nuance. But in the end their job is to figute out how to do things right.
So that’s your answer in a way I suppose. They decide
Again I don’t understand what you’re trying to say.
You think too simply of the way the world works. There has to be someone protecting information in the news and online. Otherwise bad actors will spread their disinformation and make people believe ridiculous stuff.
That someone that protects has a difficult but important job. That someone is not one person. It’s people delegated by the european parlement.
I can dumb it down a bit more if you need. But it might not be as accurate anymore
Oh, so now I’m a simpleton who should just shut up and let my overlords decide what’s best for me. Fuck off.
So when Europe does this it’s fine but when China does it it’s not good?
Europe isn’t known for hiding a tiananman square or arresting journalists
No, it’s known for the literal Holocaust
yes 1.5 billion chinese don’t know their own recent history despite thousands of Beijingers being present around the protests (and thousands of out-of-town soldiers) and Deng Xiaoping meeting with the protesters on live TV. Of course. We whites are just much more enlightened and aware of the goings-on in the world, eh? The Chinese government has declassified documents related to the clearing of the square https://www.gov.cn/zwgk/2011-11/09/content_1989024.htm and released them in Chinese but nobody in China knows that Chinese website exists, thankfully there’s europeans who know where to find it to spread the truth.
Now who’s living under a rock? Ali Abunimah was arrested in Switzerland after getting lawfully into the country.
Asa Winstansley in the UK in 2024. Richard Medhurst in 2024 and again in Vienna 2025.
Now link to journalists being arrested in China since you’re so confident. And, please, actual journalists. Not this guy https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1dpv6yqqvgo