• tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 days ago

    Why don’t you do something productive with your time, like attacking nazis or fascists instead of the few people that are actually working on making the US more socialist and equitable.

    • goat@sh.itjust.worksM
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      3 days ago

      Thankfully Nazis and fascists are largely banned across the fediverse.

      Also, determining another’s productivity is inherently capitalistic and materialistic. People don’t need to be productive, and they certainly don’t need someone claiming what is productive and what is not.

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        3 days ago

        It’s just a suggestion, and I wasn’t saying that there were necessarily a lot of fascists on the fediverse, I meant antifascist action in general. In my view it would be more useful to put in energy to fight against that or poverty or hunger or any other issue than just dwelling on and shaming internet leftists, if one’s goal is improve the condition of society.

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            3 days ago

            Yes actually, the mutual_aid comm is one of the most active on hexbear, I have personally helped comrades through it. Others have posted many times about the food they and their crew made for the community for free, or union organization efforts, or plenty of other actions.

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              3 days ago

              That community is people begging for money.

              That’s not fighting poverty and hunger lol – That’s lazy westeners who are asking for shoutouts on… Bus tickets.

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                2 days ago

                Yeah some, there are fundraisers for people in Palestine or people in global south countries that post plenty as well. I wasn’t saying that was the most effective of the ways people are trying to help, just one form

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                  2 days ago

                  Oh, so now it’s charities. But tankies donating to Palestine isn’t unique to tankies; any political ideology has done this. In my opinion, to fight poverty and hunger, I think volunteering to help the local homeless is better than clicking a button to send glorious money to others.

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                    2 days ago

                    Plenty of us volunteer too, it’s not like people can only do one thing. Some people don’t have time but they have money, others vise versa. People do what they can. Why are you so hostile to this?

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      18 days ago

      What do you think tankies are?

      They are just as much fan of authoritarian police states as nazis.

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      18 days ago

      “few people that are actually working on making the US more socialist and equitable.”

      actually got a good chuckle out of that line. i hope you don’t genuinely believe that

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      18 days ago

      Pro-authoritarian people should never be ceded credibility, given a platform, or shown anything other than disrespect.

      There’s no such thing as a good person who supports the oppression of others

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        17 days ago

        Precisely why I simultaneously agree with some statements by tankies and vehemently oppose them. I’m against all forms of authoritarianism, whether that’s fascist, socialist, or whatever it is both major parties in the US are. Government power should be as limited as possible while protecting the people from each other and foreign elements.

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      17 days ago

      We are. The funny thing is that you tankies are never criticising actual fascists, you spend all of your time handwringing over “liberals”, while regurgitating the propaganda of fascists.

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        17 days ago

        Why would we bother criticizing fascists? Do you think a nazi will change his mind because I argued against totalitarianism and xenophobia well enough? Tankies critique the left because we actually have a chance of working together. I’d be curious to know what fascist propaganda tankies espouse according to you also.

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      17 days ago

      Last i checked sanders aint waving the flag that was waved when tens of millions were made to dig their own grave and watch their children get shot and pushed in before they were, to name the more humane, chill and kinda okay atrocity on the commie atrocity tierlist.