• pageflight@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Thanks for sharing. All these experiences are very illuminating regarding the lesser impact of socialization, too. Like, I might have thought my female colleagues had just been told to cede the floor so many times they didn’t often speak at meetings. And that could still be adding to it, but here are the same individuals with the same habits getting starkly different treatment.

    Even knowing these trends from countless other stories and statistics, hearing each additional experience helps keep it in mind and see more often when it’s happening.

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      3 days ago

      I like to frame socialization as a lifelong process. People raised female often describe these experiences at formative years. And I’ve seen many trans men struggle to find their voices as adults.

      But as a trans woman I and many I’ve spoken to had multiple socializations. Effeminate male: more or less bullied into gender conformity, including things like being mocked for passivity; gender conforming male: taken seriously and encouraged to speak up more; and adult female: treated like you’re bad for speaking up and routinely discounted and underestimated.

      Oh and there’s the secret fourth socialization: trans woman: basically it’s female but when you assert yourself you’re accused of male socialization.