• gingersaffronapricat@lemm.ee
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    Do we get to choose how it’s distributed? Here are some fun options I came up with.

    1. $13.69 per day for a year. (Nice). About $419/month. Maybe they could round up to $420 because they stale internet meme culture is hip

    2. $0.76 per day for 18 years. A guaranteed $22.80 per month for an entire childhood

    3. $5000 lump sum. I can’t find any widely accepted figures for average out of pocket cost of prenatal care, child birth, and infant health visits. I’ll wild ass guess it a at covering 20-75% of those visits for people who have insurance. For people without insurance, looks like an uncomplicated vaginal birth averages $14k. But again huge variations in price

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    Ban corporations from owning residential properties. Outlaw rent as a form of slavery. Every person currently renting residential property becomes the owner of the property they’re renting. The 14,000,000 empty residential properties in the USA which are mostly corporate owned get confiscated and distributed based on the needs and skills of the families that need them. Empty 6 bedroom farmhouse on 40 acres of land goes to a family with 5 kids that is willing to farm. One bedroom condominium in the city goes to a single person or a couple. Housing is a human right. Fuck corporations. Tax the wealthy the way they did 80 years ago and use the money to pay for universal health care and free college. Tax robotic labor and AI administrative labor to pay for universal basic income. Let the robots do the work, just give us all our fair share. Nationalize all fossil fuels as a step to phasing them out. When the money from selling oil all goes to the public good rather than corporate profits, it will be much easier to switch to renewables. With free housing, UBI, free college, and universal healthcare in place, lots of people will be interested in having children.

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        You don’t think if people owned the houses and condominiums they live in and had UBI that they would invest in their own home upkeep? My great grandfather cut down some trees and built a house. I’m not suggesting corporations shouldn’t be able to build houses, they just shouldn’t own them. Let corporations own commercial and industrial properties.

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    Maybe if the world people were raising their kids in didn’t look so fucking gloomy thanks to some fascist fucks, they’d want to have more kids.

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    People are not having kids because the middle class cannot afford it. Assuming your household has the average American household income is 80k. Assuming a given household makes somewhere around this, this would give the household something like 40k at most after the kid’s associated expenses, which means that each parent would have a whopping 20k to themselves. This is positively fucked because they would have to have a quality of life similar to someone who is eligible for food stamps, but they would not be themselves.

    All this will do is increase the number of children born into poverty.

    I also find the implication that a human life is worth $5,000 disgusting.

    It was clear to me that when the gov’t went after reproductive rights, it was because declining birthrates are detrimental to capitalism. How are you going to say a fetus is priceless and then say a live infant is worth $5,000? Fucking disgusting.

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      I don’t see a clear association in saying a baby is worth $5,000 when existing tax law says a baby is worth $2,000 off your taxes. It’s an incentive, not a bill of sale.

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        Drops back down to $1000 for 2025 unless the increase is extended. A $5000 payout is actually less of a payout than just extending the current CTC.

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    Maybe they should improve the quality of life for working families to get them to be confident enough to have more babies naturally?

    …nah, it’s obviously the queers fault!

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    Japan has an aging population and tried a lot, with not much success…

    Prosperity = less kids, so we shouldn’t be surprised what Trump is going to try…

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    That tracks. I’m paying about $15k for pre-k/daycare throughout the year, which really only covers about 7-8mo, then there’s camps, babysitters, etc. I easily spend $25k on each kid and I’m not in New York or somewhere.

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    May barely cover the hospital bill for those many without health insurance. But of course the proposed bonus is intended for middle class white babies

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    Remember all the garbage about welfare queens? I thought this was something that was morally wrong in the 90s to support people who have kids?

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      Better: remember all the gnashing of teeth about “latchkey kids”? These people will do anything besides the minimum necessary.

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    There’s literally been bipartisan efforts to expand the child tax credit ($1000 per year baseline, expanded to $2000 for 2018-2025 and expiring this year, plus COVID era provisions or up to $3000 or $3600 for 2021), and the bills to do so keep dying without a vote.

    If they were serious about this they’d expand the 2021 program to where parents were getting $300 checks every month, and make that permanent and indexed to inflation.

    So much of the Trump presidency is announcing a new program that sounds good, but isn’t even enough to make up for a program that he already killed.

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        Well we already lost that in 2022, when it dropped back down to a $2000 annual credit you get when you do your taxes the year after, and after this year it’ll drop again to $1000 unless the law is changed.

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        Yeah but it’s fucking something man. At this point I’ll take anything. That’s a good grocery haul right there every single month.