NRA been quiet right
People who have been trying to disarm the working class suddenly mad when gun owners don’t get mad about the government trying to remove people here illegally who pull down wages and drive up the cost of housing for the working class.
Oh, well. That justifies all the illegal crap this government is doing, then. Enjoy your fascist sate then, shmuck !
I’m all for challenging things the government does that are illegal. The legalities of big issues are generally not settled until at minimum a district court, but usually the supreme court. The government is always doing illegal shit and I support the first for speech and protest and redress of grievences and the rest of it. And the second for reasons too many people here don’t yet appreciate enough. And the fourth because asking for my papers for no reason is Nazi shit and they should be told to fuck off. And all the rest of them too, but a lot on the left say the Constitution is obsolete and should be ignored.
Yeah we should be challenged governmental overreach but we should be doing that when Dems are in power too. I’m not on the right or the left. I’m anti authoritarian and I agree they’re overstepping, but nobody complains when they’re overstepping to do the things they want done.
wooo, you have a lot of history to relearn
Sounds like reeducation camp time
ITT People who tried to force a stratified society based on vaccination status and adherence to masking rules are now pearl clutching about an overreach to solve an actual problem.
Yeah, like seat belts in cars, right? Why the fuck is that mandatory? Who cares if I get ejected from my car in an accident. It’s my body my choice, amirite? Why the fuck are child safety seats mandatory in cars for carrying babies and small children when we can simply carry them on our lap in the passenger seat? Why even have all these stupid driving laws? Can’t we just drive anyway we want without having to wait for a stupid light to go green? That’s all government overreach.
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Don’t bring logic into this. You’ll confuse the morons…
Nice strawman. I chose my example for a reason. Discerning people declined rushed vaccines for a disease the government created.
Cope about it if you want. You already gave up your bodily autonomy it’s obvious that your house would be next.
Hahahahahahaha! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So we should start calling ICE to report fashy gun owners are harboring illegal aliens, yes?
Maybe even illegal aliens with blogs that are critical of fascism.
Who would’ve guessed that people overly obsessed with firearms and very vocal about their obsession had small dicks.
It’s almost as if they bad guys have the guns
They’re 100% OK about right wing autocracy and white supremacy. That’s been their thing the whole time.
They were always pussies.
I just want to say, Che-casio Cortez is looking really good.
A memo from the executive branch doesn’t change the law anymore than a memo from me or you can act as a change in the speed limit. “Officer, I don’t have to go 25mph here, I made a memo that says I can go as fast as I want, anywhere I want. I signed it and everything. Look it has my personal letterhead at the top.”
SovCit “jurisprudence” says you can if the flag has a gold fringe.
“You might beat the rap, but you won’t beat the ride.”
This memo may not hold legal weight, but that won’t mean much when ICE black-bags you and sends you to a Salvadoran gulag from which there is no escape and no contact with legal services.
That would be the case if the executive branch still cared about what the judicial branch has to say or involved the whole legislative branch in the decision making process. However, they don’t and their bulldozer approach is met with very little resistance.
Or in short: Being right doesn’t help you a lot if you’re being right while already in their concentration camp in El Salvador.
So if you shoot someone acting on a no knock warrant, are you in the wrong? What if you live in a state with a castle law?
Morally and constitutionally no, but good luck living long enough to argue that in a court.
Just know that with the first shot, they are going to unload every round of ammo they have until every living thing in that house is dead.
Hey yea that’s right,you yanks love shooting people on your property
If they have a badge and I get away with it, yeah. Especially an ICE badge. Traffic cops have done some good. But I can’t remember hearing any story about ICE that was about them doing anything positive, ever.
Watch the life drain from their dead eyes and know some good was done as I have purified the evil trained into their husk like a cancer.
Everybody wins.
But shooting people in general? Nah. Personally speaking, anyway. I don’t even have a gun myself.
I feel the opposite goes for conservatives. They’ll shoot anyone they can argue they felt threatened by. But they’ll lick ICE boots on request.
It helps a lot if there’s only one side to the story. Because the other guys in a body bag.
I have lots of cameras. Some hidden. I have all kinds of evidence. Best things be done according to the law on my premises. The Constitutional law, not the flippant ravings done on a whim just to test the actual laws put in place for 200 years.
I feel like I would run out of ammo before they stopped coming.
Depends on the state. But if you shoot a cop, regardless of how justified, your next 10 years, should you see them, are going to suck. And the following 10 are iffy.
These are the cops who are whisking people away to El Salvador with the intent of leaving them there forever. Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.
There’s guys who successfully used self defense and didn’t do significant time.
Okay, and how much were they harassed by the angry swine in their neighborhood? I specifically did not mention incarceration.
White?
Of course.
But if you shoot ALL the cops?
Because capitalism has beaten every last will I have.
It won’t get better because we are, in fact, waiting to die.
Dear other countries: don’t let the bastards win. They already have here.
Edit: I’m depressed as fuck, please don’t let my doomsaying hurt you. Sorry.
Hell yea brother I’m waiting with you 💀
No I feel you. It’s a bad time to be American.
Well i’m not sure whether it’s the tyranny they were always talking about.
after all, the US is sometimes incredibly racist, and these voices are influential rn. so it’s not surprising that there isn’t really a lot of loud voices invoking the 2nd amendment rn. especially not from the trump supporters.
The tyranny is when they take the guns and it’s too late to fight back. The tyranny is not the slow boil while they oppress the people I don’t like before getting to me next. Duh. Stupid libs.
Almost got me with this one. I’ve heard the same argument deployed unironically from some of my own family…
2A guy here. for the record assault weapons should be banned or regulated to fuckall, and all firearms should be registered to licensed Americans.
I’m not saying anything too loudly because it’s bad tactics to give away your position when in a conflict.
nobody knows who or what is behind your door. use that to your advantage.
that is all.
well, the interesting thing is that Karl Marx himself supported worker’s right to bear arms, funnily enough.
knowing this, i’ve completely changed my point of view on firearms. yes, they do a lot of harm and definitely should be dealt with cautiously. and also it’s completely beyond any meaningful stance that facebook allows pictures of firearms, but not naked breasts.
but apart from that, the issue of firearms is more interesting than it seems at first glance, and i guess a re-evaluation is warranted.
Says pro2a…then says ban and license everything so the gov has a registry…
Pressing X for doubt really hard on this one
eat shit if you believe that weapons shouldn’t be registered to licensed and trained individuals.
without a registry and path to licensing children will keep getting killed in schools, people will keep getting killed at public events.
A registery isn’t going to magically solve people shooting each other…and no I don’t believe there should be a registry…you know why? Because when fascist are charge like right now, do you think they’ll let minorities own or purchase weapons to protect themselves?
A registry and licensing is not and will never solve our gun violence issues, because we don’t have a gun problem, we have a societal problem.
it’s a mental health problem, not a societal problem. and the best way to ensure that violent smooth brain assholes don’t get guns is to register them and ensure they are trained and licensed.
stop acting like a troll. registry and licensing works in other countries just fine. perhaps we wouldn’t have as many of those “societal issues” if there was more gun regulation, specifically assault weapons.
there’s no “magic bullet” that’s going to solve everything, but doing nothing does nothing.
No it is not just a mental health problem. And the reason it works in other countries is because they A) dont have anywhere near the amount of firearms we do in civ hands and b) because they have safety nets for their citizens.
I’ve not said to not do anything. I’ve said we need to work on our society. Doing half this list would cut our violent crime in half in under a decade. Registration and licensing would not do a damn thing.
Single payer healthcare, so people can get mental health without going broke and avoiding it. Or turning to suicide, which is 2/3rds of our firearm deaths.
Reform prisoners, not lock them away for forever and rob them of ever being a productive member of society.
Get rid of for profit prisons, so we’re not turning an addict into someone who gets out of prison and can’t get a job because they carry a felony.
End qualified immunity so the 1/40 gun deaths aren’t from police who just kill people and get away with it.
Increase our school funding 10 fold. Build more schools, so class sizes can be 10-15 kids max per teacher. Not 30-40+
Solidify abortion rights into law, why the hell it’s been left to the courts for so long is insane. More unwanted children doesn’t create mentally stable people.
Of course the NRA has been quiet. They always do this, because they’re not about to people. Do you remember when California passed stricter gun laws? Because black people were buying guns? That happened like 50 years ago. The NRA was silent then and they are silent now.
Of course it’s always good to point out the hypocrisy. But let’s also remember the historical context, that this is consistent with the organization’s values and it always has been and it always will be.
I’m sorry, I can’t figure out what you meant to say with “not about to people,” and it’s driving me nuts.
Not about the people
