• General_Effort@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    Just because you can’t make a mathematical proof doesn’t mean you don’t understand the very simple truth of the statement.

    If I can’t prove it, I don’t know how I can claim to understand it.

    It’s axiomatic that equality is symmetric. It’s also axiomatic that 1+1=2. There is not a whole lot to understand. I have memorized that. Actually, having now thought about this for a bit, I think I can prove it.

    What makes the difference between a human learning these things and an AI being trained for them?

    I think if I could describe that, I might actually have solved the problem of strong AI.

    Then how will you know the difference between strong AI and not-strong AI?

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      3 hours ago

      Then how will you know the difference between strong AI and not-strong AI?

      I’ve already stated that that is a problem:

      From a previous answer to you:

      Obviously the Turing test doesn’t cut it, which I suspected already back then. And I’m sure when we finally have a self aware conscious AI, it will be debated violently.

      Because I don’t think we have a sure methodology.

      I think therefore I am, is only good for the conscious mind itself.
      I can’t prove that other people are conscious, although I’m 100% confident they are.
      In exactly the same way we can’t prove when we have a conscious AI.

      But we may be able to prove that it is NOT conscious, which I think is clearly the case with current level AI. Although you don’t accept the example I provided, I believe it is clear evidence of lack of a consciousness behind the high level of intelligence it clearly has.