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[“fierce opposition”? Don’t bet on it.]
By TIA GOLDENBERG and SAM MEDNICK
Updated 5:25 AM EDT, May 5, 2025TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Israel approved plans on Monday to capture the entire Gaza Strip and remain in the territory for an unspecified amount of time, two Israeli officials said, in a move that if implemented would vastly expand Israel’s operations in the Palestinian territory and likely bring fierce international opposition.
Israeli Cabinet ministers approved the plan in an early morning vote, hours after the Israeli military chief said the army was calling up tens of thousands of reserve soldiers.
“They’re both immoral, voting doesn’t make a difference” is how autocracies like Russia come to be.
Vote for the least bad side. It’s that simple. Protest during the primaries, protest after the election, but don’t freaking protest vote by effectively voting for something an order of magnitude worse on your very issues.
Doesn’t matter if Biden/Harris came out and personally handed Netanyahu bombs after hugging him every day… If this is your single issue vote, you vote for the party that doesn’t literally want to flatten Gaza, no matter how bad they are.
No, Russia became an autocracy by never being a free state after the fall of the Soviet Union.
The chaos of just adding a president to the existing Soviet order and then the overpowered oligarchs vying for power and buying the “privatized” industries through nepotism and backroom deals is how it happened. Not to mention Yeltsin literally forcing his constitution into law by having tanks fire on the parliament and arresting its members, resulting in an incredibly powerful president who appointed basically the entire government.
The same few oligarchs and corrupt politicians retaining power, especially when the president holds outsized power in the system led the country to an autocracy. It wasnt from people thinking “both are immoral, voting doesn’t make a difference.”
The Russian people know voting doesn’t make a difference because the government did nothing to show they’re trustworthy. 88% of the vote, the competitors being arrested or suicided?
Ignoring immoral politicians and giving them power despite their shortcomings is far more likely to lead to autocracy. It’s not on the voter to cast their vote. It’s on the politicians to earn the votes. Thinking it’s the other way around is incredibly twisted. And honestly really sad that that’s the way people think.
Well I’m not sorry, as I am not seeing anything presented that changes the calculus.
Better politicians would be nice, but we didn’t get them in the primaries, so when we get to the general election we vote for who we freaking got, and “protesting” with your vote is not going to change that, as thats not what this vote is for. I guess you’re not obligated to, but your logic is flawed if you think that’s a good form of protest.
Who cares if they are immoral? Get over it. Vote for the less worse candidate, if you want to keep voting at all. On aggregate, it’s that simple.
In other words, a no vote is equal support of both candidates.
That’s it.
It means nothing else.
And I referenced Russia because the population seems to have a general cynicism knowing they can’t change anything. That’s what keeps the system the way it is.
absolutely right, only people pushing an agenda think nonvptong is a reasonable response
there’s obvious vote manipulating going on here they always do it with 0 to -1 and it will always happen when the majority of interest in the post has died, seen the exact voting trends to many times