I tried explaining my problems with tankies without calling them tankies. In fact, I used their own terminology to describe my disagreement with them. It, uh… well it doesn’t make a lot of sense.

George Orwell fought in the Spanish civil war on the side of the Marxists. His army was betrayed by the Marxist-Leninists. After that experience, he wrote 1984, in which a totalitarian government uses “newspeak” to suppress dissent by suppressing the very ideas that people are capable of communicating. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Marxist-Leninists describe their disagreements in terms that turn criticism of them into gibberish. I think it’s exactly what Orwell was writing about based on his experiences.

      • MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        21 hours ago

        Yeah, but that’s just an attempt at something like communism. They didn’t reach full communism.

        • Genius@lemmy.zipOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          24 hours ago

          During the Spanish civil war, Catalonia was governed by the Marxists and the Anarchists. They dismantled the state and gave control of the government over to the trade unions. It wasn’t perfect, but it was the middle of a war, and they were making progress every month. Until they were betrayed by the Marxist-Leninists.

            • Genius@lemmy.zipOP
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              22 hours ago

              Stalin: It’s going to be at least another hundred years before I can do communism

              Catalonia: Yeah so it’s been a few weeks and we’re already doing communism. Come visit and shoot a Nazi!

              Stalin: Fuck fuck fuck they’re making me look bad. Uhhhhhhh destroy Catalonia!

          • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            23 hours ago

            They were Anarcho-Syndicalist and tbh we have never forgotten them. The collapse of the CNT was one of the greatest tragedies in human history.