I didn’t vote for Trump, this is not a justification for anything he is doing, this is purely me trying to find any crumb of hope in this abysmal situation.

The country was in decline for at least a decade before Trump took office. So far everything has been a slow boil and we Americans just take it imo.

Maybe Trump will make everything so awful so quickly it will force actual change. Basically we were slowly heating the water and when it turned lukewarm Trump just cranked the heat up to max, maybe the frog realizes this and jumps out.

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    Depends on how bad it gets. People respond to life being full of shit they don’t like by complaining, then when things go back to normal they’re like, “Whew, glad that’s over,” and find more stuff to complain about, but as long as they’re still in one piece they’re good to just tolerate life. That’s what happened after Trump’s first term and now here are again, because it never got truly bad enough. To get motivated enough to really DO something about the world, people have to be seriously traumatized and broken. I’m talking about actually homelessness, going hungry for extended periods, getting thrown in prison, that kind of thing. Experiencing angst from scrolling through disappointing news didn’t do it last time and won’t do it this time.

    If Trump’s second term makes things awful enough to facilitate actual change, “awful” is gonna have to be a lot worse than anything we’ve ever seen.

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      If Trump’s second term makes things awful enough to facilitate actual change, “awful” is gonna have to be a lot worse than anything we’ve ever seen.

      That’s already the case

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        It isn’t. Not yet, at least.

        Most Americans still have jobs, can afford food, can find food, and have their cars and homes. Some have lost some of the former, it’s true, but not enough to ignite any real change.

        Imagine a scenario of Trump enacting martial law and beginning to mass arrest and imprison US citizens in detention camps. Not immigrants, refugees, or tourists - actual US citizens taken from their homes. Imagine the US government gathering troops on the Canadian border. Imagine the government disappearing members of the Democrat party. Imagine the government enacting a China-styled internet blockade.

        Those are the things that will likely spark some kind of call for change.