I saw a thread of people bitching about how they could not avoid making Henry gay in KCD2. I didn’t even know what the fuck they were on about, because there are only like 2 chances to be gay and you have to really want it because it takes a high speech check just to get the NPCs you can romance to admit they are gay, and even more to convince them you are too.
Besides, even if you somehow managed to “accidentally” be gay: you can just go to the church and pay for an indulgence so you’re still good with God. 🤷🏻♂️
sometimes people just choose whatever the speech check is
i didnt know the confirmed bachlor perk in new vegas was making me gay i just took it for the damage buff and new dialogue options 😂
“Confirmed Bachelor” is a popular euphemism dating back to at least the 19thC, but especially common in the 1950s (from where Fallout gets a lot of its aesthetic).
yeah i was 12 when i played it
I’m not judging you personally, but in the wider context of the thread that game has a ESRB Mature 17+ / PEGI 18 rating for all the stuff in there that’s way worse than being a bit fruity
I dont know, American ratings are stupid.
I can totally see gay romance ranking a game higher on the age charge than all the blood, dismemberment, gore, etc.
spider-man 1 or 2 had an easter egg where you could get mary jane to kiss herself. they had to remove it because it was going to bump the rating up to mature for the lesbian kissing
“Forgive me father, for I have sinned. I have thus sheathed mine sword in yonder field hand.”
“That will be 1 Groschen, my son. Did you enjoy it?”
“Yes, Father”
“That will be 2 Groschen, then.”
I have zero doubt that if you could somehow wave a magic wand and make it so that men who are driven primarily by boner shame were unable to even comment, the whole anti-woke movement would instantly vanish.
I get that you probably just didn’t think about the implications here, but this would mean there were no bigoted straight people.
Those are classifications we made up, though. Reality is more fluid than that
The bigoted straight people are being accused of having shame-boners for something else, like say, trans women
Alex Jones is known to have lots of porn with trans women on his phone.
Wait - what?
How on earth did you reach that conclusion?
They’re basically all bigoted straight people.
What do you think “straight” is? Some sort of all-or-nothing biological switch?
That’s the same mistake they make.
I think if you’re a dude getting a boner over dudes kissing after you specifically chose to watch that (as in the OP) and call yourself straight you’re doing some Olympic level mental gymnastics 🤷♂️
So… you’re taking the position that sexuality is just a handful of rigid categories rather than a spectrum? And that it’s a purely physiological matter rather than a primarily psychological one?
The irony…
No, but that’s clearly the position you need me to have for some reason. Could you explain what you feel is compatible with the concept of identifying as straight while being sexually aroused by expressions of gay sexuality?
It’s kinda funny that there was none of this “sexuality categories don’t real” in this post until a queer person suggested something might have been unintentionally offensive.
Could you explain what you feel is compatible with the concept of identifying as straight while being sexually aroused by expressions of gay sexuality?
I think people have the right to identify however they please, and someone else’s judgment of it is irrelevant at best.
It’s kinda funny that there was none of this “sexuality categories don’t real” in this post until a queer person suggested something might have been unintentionally offensive.
I have no idea of the sexuality of whoever it is you’re talking about.
And actually, sexuality categories were key from the start. The reason that insecure men fear and feel shame over the prospect of a wayward boner is that they’re afraid that sexuality is some sort of absolutist thing, such that the least inclination toward the same sex immediately removes them from the “straight” club forever.
It became explicit when, much to my surprise, someone responded to essentially argue that same position.
I think people have the right to identify however they please, and someone else’s judgment of it is irrelevant at best.
In that case it was very kind of you to direct a similar level of scrutiny to the people in this thread claiming that the only reason bigotry exists is because the bigots are secretly all turned on by it.
I have no idea of the sexuality of whoever it is you’re talking about.
Did you miss the subject of this entire post?
What getting tricked to jerk off to trans/femboy porn did to a generation of men…
That’s why back in my day we called em traps
100% That’s why they think being gay is a choice, and that’s why they resent out of the closet gays who get to live the life they have convinced themselves they cannot.
Yup. These people are bi and/or pan, but choose to have straight relationships. They think that because it’s a choice for them, that it’s a choice for everyone else too. Doesn’t work that way.
This is really clarifying, thanks. It makes so much more sense now. The irrational assertion that is a choice is real for them. They don’t understand that other people aren’t bi. They think homosexual people have chosen the minority route out of some sort of stubbornness and that of they just up the social legal penalties it’ll reduce the number of people publicly living the life that they secretly crave to explore but can’t bear to admit to.
its very frequently projection with these people.
political actors are apparently great at exploiting peoples shame and fear.
Seriously I never got this. Just choose to not do the gay or don’t do Tash’s quest lines or use her in your party.
“I can’t not be trans!!”
ignores the very obvious (Back) option
You can be trans in BG3??? Perhaps I should try finishing act 2 after all …
This is Dragon Age Veilguard.
Although this isn’t BG3, you can also choose to be trans in that game, yes. It doesn’t affect the story in any way, though.
isnt asmongold known to be a right winger.
Yup, as is anyone who’s “anti-woke.”
i remember on reddit there was a whole drama of him in the streaming subs.
Outright zionazi too. “No, I’m not going to cry a fucking river when people who have genocide baked into their laws are getting genocided” Here he’s referring to the victims of the genocide in Gaza, half the victims of which are children.
And is now a rabid transphobe too.
Option 1. Be popular streamer.
Option 2. Be able to read what’s on the screen.
You can pick only one.
I can’t read that.
This is a money’s paw. If you’re not careful, you may hit your head and become DSP.
Being monumentally fucking retarded is the least of his worries.
That’s what happens when you get infected by the broke mind virus.
Imagine if gay people threw a fit every time a game forced them to be straight.
Come on KOTOR - why can’t me and Garth be a thing?
Let me have Garrus.
There shouldn’t be a straight relationship for Garrus either. He’s bro, not lover.
There’s a reason they make censorship mods. And I’m pretty sure they are the same people who used to cry about censorship in games every time.
Can we stop blaming queer people for homophobia? No, being a bigot does not mean you secretly like the thing/want the thing/are the thing. Yes it’s funny when it happens, no that doesn’t mean you can bring back “gay” as an insult as long as it is only against homophobes.
On the surface I agree with everything you said but I do think this is a conversation worth having.
Sexual repression is a real thing and personally I do think a large amount of the people that align with the character in the OP are upset because it makes them feel a certain way and that scares/upsets them.
Conservatives really do believe that things can “make you gay”. Seems to me that people who think that external things can make them gay, might just actually be gay.
So I guess the focus might need to be more focused on the fact that video games can’t actually make you gay.
Maybe the conversation just need more nuance.
The religious indoctrination of children creates shameful and sexually repressed adults.
Maybe some of them, but that’s hardly a prerequisite for this type of thinking/behaviour, and most of them likely are not. What they are is afraid of what it means for there to be difference. If people can be x, y, or z, then maybe they had possibilities cut off from them, happier lives they could have lived if they had gone their own way one this, that, or the other thing.
There’s a type of rigid thinking at play: These are the options open to us all, and you will be punished if you deviate from them. And if they look around and see people deviating from those options and not being punished, they’re forced to either confront the idea that their world view is arbitrary and wrong, or they’re forced to be the ones doing the punishing. Or get to be the ones doing the punishing, depending on their relationship to violence.
Today it’s trans people, yesterday it was queer folk, most days it’s railing against descriptive linguistics and living language. These are people who will have a tantrum about anything, because the world outside of their head will never match the rigid one inside it.
Honestly, I never feel more alpha than when I get to spend time with my daughter, partner, sister, mom. Meanwhile these wannabe real male spend all their time at the gym looking at other bros’s ass, working 60 hours a week with other dudes on construction sites, and watching other guys explaining them of to be alpha. Go figure.
I like popping a bag of popcorn and dwelling in steam forums. KCD 2 was fun, just for this reason.
