Walz usually saves that level of ire for ethnically Palestinian Minnesotans. Good to see a Dem talking about having a spine though.
I couldn’t imagine unironically thinking this timeline is the better option.
Second thread in a row where some random dipshit sees “problem X with democrats” and immediately goes “wow so you’re loving Trump then?”
Like it or not the states is a two party system.
Doesn’t change how stupid what you said is, dumbass
I cant imagine the dem centrists actually standing up and demanding (for once in their lives) better candidates.
People gushing over an ardent zionist shows the dems have learned nothing at all, and still dont really give a sh*t what their voters think.Thanks for censoring shit I almost shit myself seeing that.
If one of them says, “Well Harris was/would be worse!”, explain the concept of Schodinger’s Cat to them; in a universe where Harris was never President, you can’t say shit about what she would have done.
Also… Harris just wouldn’t be worse? Not by any stretch of the what-in-the-laughable-but-dangerous-stupidity-is-this.
What they really objected to, a black woman.
Tried that, doesn’t phase them. So use quantum mechanics and make them feel extra stupid.
We need to go back to mercilessly mocking them and calling them weird.
It didn’t work.
And let me tell you, you do not want to be roadkill with this administration.
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i mean, by the grammatical rules, it’s still a valid reply to the comment.
[modifier][noun][verb][modifier][noun].gödel reminds us: “syntax all on its own cannot determine semantics”.
the point is to evidence grammaticalness despite apparent meaningfulness, and the commenter may just be seeking to simulate the point with a logically consistent application of the rules at play. “incomplete” with respect to [mimicking] or [reproducing] an [socio-historical cultural] artifact, but not inconclusive in evidencing the point (remixing to produce variations on the theme; i.e., there are evidences of 20±word recursive sentences, if not larger).
nothing about the buffalo sentence entails the social rule “when someone else posts the buffalo sentence, it must match the aforementioned sentence verbatim”. permutations on the point are totally fair game.
You could’ve been in charge if you had simply denounced genocide. But you couldn’t.
A genocide happening is not why the Dems lost…
I think that’s a bit simplistic. I think Biden’s position on Gaza hurt turnout, but at the very most, that would mean Trump would win the electoral vote only rather than both the electoral and popular votes. There were several other reasons, e.g. the economy, Biden not bowing out earlier, Harris not putting some separation between them, etc. that ultimately doomed them.
Right, I forgot that Trump won because of how pro-Palestine he is.
Gotta love how pointing out Harris/Walz failed at X means you said Trump would be great at X
Too many people with tiny brains are allowed to participate
All those tiny brains who thought not voting for Harris would somehow make things better. You’re right.
It was literally a binary election. That’s how FPTP works. In a two party system it’s ridiculous to expect a candidate that has your exact values on every single issue.
But sure protest vote for the next 50 years and see where that gets you.
Gotta love entirely irrelevant replies to what I actually said
Y’all shouldn’t be allowed to participate, you’re too fucking stupid
Bro every one of your recent comments is you being mad af. Maybe reflect on that.
Also the fact that your instinctive response to someone disagreeing with you is to immediately lob insults calling everyone else dumb makes you look insecure about your intelligence.
Also the fact that your instinctive response to someone disagreeing with you is to immediately lob insults calling everyone else dumb makes you look insecure about your intelligence
Nah, just sick of seeing dipshits act like dipshits and not get called out on it, both irl and on here. It’s my rock-solid confidence you’re a bunch of mouth breathing idiots who hide behind “civility” that leads to the default lack of respect, but good try psycho-analyzing me and getting it wrong, dipshit
When did I say that? The election had abysmal turnout, and most non-voters say something along the lines of “both sides are the same”. The most effective way to fight back against that narrative is to…actually not be exactly like the other side. Yet the Dems just couldn’t forgo a few million in bribes and actually be materially different on key campaign issues.
Anyone who thinks the two sides were the same is a dangerously stupid person who simply shouldn’t vote. Ever.
We know they didn’t vote.
Hey bud I hope you have the day your vote caused.
DAMMIT! We WERE going to have Him RUN for President but now we need to Find Someone ELSE! Is Charlie Kirk’s pal GAVIN NEWSOM around?
-The DNC LITERALLY!
If you become road kill you’ll then have RFK after ya so take this warning seriously.
Dear libs, please listen to your people who know how to stand up to bullies.
Just gonna leave this here.
I have big narc tendencies and lemme tell ya that shit would kill me. The only point I am saying this is to harden the fuck up through some niche forum so that ‚public embarrassment’ doesn’t feel like dying anymore.
It kinda worked. But it took a lot of trolling like a lot and multiple bans on any possible social media you can imagine to shape oneself into someone more resistant to words.
First gain resistance by learning to say whatever shit is on your tongue and feel nothing about consequences and then come back to reason and you feel like unlocking superpower. Finally not shaped by others but being more of a rock staying solid and unaffected by external factors whatever happens.
The hardest battles are those we fight with ourselves
I know you’re getting down votes, but I appreciate your honesty and willingness to do some introspection. Good on ya.
If we look at the common exhibitionist subtype of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) that most people think of when they hear the term narcissist, it is fairly easy to see that they use a simple three-part defense to create a façade of extreme self-confidence. I call this the “GOD defense.”
G – Grandiosity: They act as if they are special and entitled to do or say whatever they want. Grandiose motto: “I am special.”
O – Omnipotent: They make all sorts of unrealistic claims about how powerful and knowledgeable they are. Omnipotent motto: “I can do anything, and I know everything worth knowing,”
D – Devaluing: They feel free to attack and devalue anyone who is not clearly above them in their status hierarchy. Devaluing motto: “You are worthless, defective garbage, and are here to serve me.”
Yeah, you could just put “Example: Donald Trump” on all three.
Let’s adopt this as a manual…
I had a theory during Covid that if I would be able to embarass the shit out of anti-vaxers on Nextdoor, that they’d stop showing up and spreading bad info. I never got to check / test / confirm any results to what I was (completely unscientifically) doing; but this is a great article to make me feel like I am getting a pat on the back.
I’ve said this for a while now. You want to make a dent? You go after the ego.
Picture this: an endless stream of totally “realistic” phone-recorded AI videos of Trump playing golf. He lines up the putt—misses. Tries again—air ball. It’s literally an inch away now—misses again. Doesn’t blink, just traps it in, smirks, walks off like he nailed it. Over and over.
The key is subtlety. These can’t look staged or flashy—make them feel like someone’s nephew filmed it from the cart. Make it look like he’s genuinely terrible but thinks he’s crushing it.
Then blast them everywhere. Flood the algorithm. Turn his “I’m the best at golf” schtick into a punchline.
This is how you use AI to actually take Trump down—with a thousand tiny ego papercuts.
Sprinkle some tacos in there and you’re good to go!
Lol too funny - the last two days I have been very openly telling people that I am tired of coddling conservatives and we need to just start bullying them. Had a family member talking about RFK Jr and how he (allegedly) wants to clean up school lunches the other day, so I immediately reminded them how they treated Michelle Obama like shit for attempting the same thing. Then they started complaining some more saying we eat crap blah blah, so I showed them how musk and his fuck bois gutted over a billion from the USDA that was bringing local farm produce and meat to schools in our region. Then they started talking about how France has such great food and I said it’s because France, like a lot of Western Europe, has an insane level of regulation keeping companies from putting sawdust and other crap in their food. frankly I was being relentless and it felt good. If they’re going to espouse their bullshit, I’m going to respond.
I just don’t give a shit anymore. I present the information, they whine, I tell them they’re wrong and selfish and being shitty. I’m tired of “agreed to disagree“ bullshit. They didn’t do that for us, and look how that worked out for them. It’s high we bully the shit out of conservatives. We let them brand themselves as the political equivalent of punk rock and that was a mistake.
Had a family member talking about RFK Jr and how he (allegedly) wants to clean up school lunches the other day, so I immediately reminded them how they treated Michelle Obama like shit for attempting the same thing.
What a blind and selfish attitude.
Anyone wanting to clean up school lunches deserves support. Fuck your sports team mentality.
You have literally no idea what you’re talking about.
Him saying out loud “kids eat healthier” doesn’t do shit. He let musk cut a billion dollar program that brought farm produce and meat to school cafeterias in my state and this person had no fucking clue that happened. They hear “we should do _____,” cheer, Trump says, “we did it!” They assume it happened, they cheer. I am here to tell them “no, it did not fucking happen.”
Piss off with your patronizing, judging attitude. I could care less. Whine away. Some of us are actually dealing with real shit here. And I’m damn sure going to start telling people what the consequences of their actions are.
Your conservative relatives now give a shit about children’s health. Take the win.
Don’t try to score on them, putting your ego above a worthy cause.
(Whether or not RFK manages to do something useful is a different topic)
No, they don’t. Just like wounded veterans or Uyghurs in China or Jewish Americans, they are simply a political cudgel to be wielded when it is convenient and discarded when it doesn’t suit their agenda. Pick any year, they focus on one thing for a second, and move on the moment it doesn’t score political points anymore.
I agree kids should eat healthy meals. RFK Jjr is still an anti-vaxxer piece of shit who doesn’t know what he’s doing, and I’m going to tell them that. I am going to point out the programs that show success, show them how the administration that they voted for is defunding them, and they can learn or continue their bullshit. I will not back down, I will be forceful with my opinions, and you can get the fuck over it.
Go bother somebody else. I’m tired of seeing you in my inbox.
they are simply a political cudgel to be wielded when it is convenient and discarded when it doesn’t suit their agenda.
Exactly. Do you recognise that is exactly what you are doing with your “My team did this first” attitude? Be a little more self aware.
Go bother somebody else. I’m tired of seeing you in my inbox
And I thought you were the one stalking me.
Dude get a fucking hobby. Leave me alone
Sweet Jesus, Everett. Can I post this to c/BestOfLemmy?
I highly doubt it counts As it’s just a bunch of chest pounding from someone online who could totally be making all of this up but hey man, feel free lol
Actually if you don’t mind, maybe don’t post it. I don’t wanna invite people looking for a bone to pick lol
Hahaha, ok I won’t.
And it was really the second paragraph I wanted to post. You’re right, the first part could be fiction, but it feels quite real right now, which is why I liked it as well. But the second part is undeniable. Challenge them anywhere and everywhere; on everything, on all their lies. Turn their world upsidedown, tear asunder their illusions, send the sanctuary of their ignorance crashing down around them.
Anyway, hard agree, no post to BestOf, best bullying wishes to you, may your references quickly spring to mind during your future arguments.
If you wanna just steal that part and post it somewhere for some reason without my name go for it. I’m not worried about credit or anything
Gotcha. Cheers!
Thanks for understanding! I have been doxxed before so I just try to be a little cautious
That isn’t even bullying! That is just pointing out how fucking wrong and hypocritical they are about every little thing.
The bullying is that I just wasn’t letting off the gas at all. In “polite Society“ you’re expected to not press on stuff like this, especially in a group, or it’s considered bullying. And frankly I can see that. Sometimes people just won’t let up and they’ll start trying to dominate somebody in a discussion. So I decided to do it myself lol
I was admittedly also acting a little smug and shitty the whole time
Keep it up.
Got a beach trip with extended family coming. Already cracking my knuckles dude. Can’t wait to remind them how at Christmas I guaranteed them musk wouldn’t make it to the summer
Given your level of justified vitrol, I’m surprised you’re associating with these people volunteerily at all. I’ve got family I’ll never talk to again because I don’t want to have any time to Nazis. Most of them are dead to me, so missing funerals won’t even be a thing.
Partner’s family, and they’re not all terrible. Got a handful of deplorables, a few well meaning Romney republicans who I think are seeing the light some, and a few progressives.
I certainly can’t force my partner to cut off their family. The only time I really would start doing that is if they can’t behave themselves in front of my kids.
This. Don’t let them talk, if they want to make themselves sheep then you need to shepherd them, at least long enough to get them thinking for themselves again
The only thing I won’t debate is the 2020 election. The moment people call it into question explicitly say “Trump lost and I am not debating this.” I treat it like they’re saying the Earth is flat. If you try to appeal to any source of real information or argument, you have immediately made their stance something worth considering. It needs to be100% unequivocally dismissed without thought
We don’t need to prove anything, the burden of proof is on them. And they have failed to provide even a modicum of evidence after all these years.
You can get most of them in tears with a few sentences pointing out their own failings in life as the primary reason they joined such a stupid political cult.
Just to be clear, your position is that your parents deserve to be bullied because they want healthier foods in schools? If RFK Jr does improve food in schools, will you apologize to them? You also do see a difference between the methods Michelle Obama used and those RFK Jr are using now, right?
You shouldnt take your anger out on your parents, IMO.
Shut up, scum
No wonder you’re tagged as “Nazi” on my end
You know which group was great at labelling and ostracizing people? Maybe we are both Nazis, who’s to tell.
I didn’t get angry. I was assertive and forceful with my opinions. Just like I’ve had to endure for the past decade while I had to be the polite person letting conservatives whine and complain and yell about Biden, trans athletes and bathrooms, “cities burning,” you name it.
There is no way you can read what I said and see it as “I picked on my parent for wanting healthier food in schools.“ That is such a dishonest reading of what I wrote that I don’t want to continue this conversation further. Come back when you knock off the disingenuous Internet argument tropes.
Well, unfortunately I see pettiness in your post, not bravery. But keep on fighting the good fight.
I didn’t say I was brave. I said I’m fed up. I’m done coddling adults who voted to subjugate people.
Your smug attitude sure isn’t helping anyone.
I’m the smug one? I get along just fine with my parents despite many differences. You’re the one acting like a petulant child when people don’t agree with you.
bro wake the fuck up and look around. Playtime is over. You need to assert your opinions and shout down conspiracy theorists and treat them like the fuck wits they are. You go ahead and keep playing nice and see how that does. Meanwhile, I’m over here helping LGBT people safely leave their families and teens go get abortions out of state far away from the government’s prying eyes - the nearest facility is 800 miles from me btw. These are the stakes for some of us.
Shit has gotten bad. This isn’t 2016. These people need to understand the consequences of their actions and feel bad.
Yes, I don’t doubt you are doing whatever you think makes you a good person, I’m saying that I wouldnt choose to be the same person as you. Things have been bad for a long time, just because you or your group is suddenly one of the victims doesnt change anything. If you really think this is something new and special, then I have a bridge to sell you my friend.
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“If you push me, I am going to hit you with a Buick.”
I’ve lost “friends” over this philosophy, but the friends I’ve gained since taking on the philosophy feel a lot more real.
Likewise, if you’re being bullied, destroy the bully and the bullying will stop.
I never cease to be amazed at the “if you don’t treat bullies with respect you are the baddie” discourse in the US. It’s been the MO in schools for about 80 years and has become the standard operating procedure for many adults. Protecting yourself and others from bullies is an ethical imperative. As is supporting others who have defended themselves or others are being further victimized as a result. Bullies (and the people/systems that support them) lack empathy, compassion, reason, and accountability and are only happy when they feel powerful, which they achieve by harming anyone they think they can get away with. The only language they understand is force and any other tactic is as useful as yelling at a brick wall.
100% - Cheers!
Colonel Graff:
Tell me why you kept on kicking him. You had already won.
Ender Wiggin:
Knocking him down won the first fight. I wanted to win all the next ones, too. So they’d leave me alone.
This is Trump’s strategy too. Make a brutal enough example of a few universities, or law firms, or immigrants, or other countries’ economies, and the rest will comply in advance. Like Trump said in his West Point commencement speech recently: "As much as you wanna fight, I’d rather do it without having to fight. I just wanna look at them and have them fold.”
Reminder: Ender Wiggin is not a fucking hero.
