• normalexit@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Kevin Spacey. Bill Cosby. Danny Masterson. Steven Tyler. Anthony Kedis.

    They are all gross now that I know more about them; some moreso than others.

    • waz@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      For me Bill Cosby was not surprising. Danny Masterson was disappointing. I havent yet heard what Steven Tyler or Kevin Spacey did and now I’m afraid to Google it. I have no idea who Anthony Kiedis is.

      …just looked them all up…sigh, yeah. I’m with you. It does make it impossible to appreciate the art with that knowledge.

      • normalexit@lemmy.world
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        11 days ago

        Yeah honestly I debated putting that one in. Under the Bridge is a solid song, and flea and the drummer are independently good.

        Honestly just wanted to remind people he admitted to dating a 16 year old when he was 24.

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
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      11 days ago

      cringey how miley kunis and asthon kutcher were shilling for him, and then fleeing to the europe, because they are facing criticism or connection to him/ SA. Ellen did the same thing with diddy.

      • Delphia@lemmy.world
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        10 days ago

        I kind of feel for people who were close with people who were outed as sex offenders, because they didnt come in on monday “Hey, Danny! How was your weekend?” “Bro I spiked a girls drink and raped her in my car, it was awesome.” I worked with a guy for years, his daughter had “issues” and then one day it came out that he was a sexual abuser of his own daughter. Which explained her mental health issues. In that case he quit his job, got his affairs in order and pled guilty. But I still remember thinking he was a great guy, until he wasnt… now I’m going to find it really hard to not pop his nose out the back of his fucking head if I ever run into him again.

        Now throw in the potential “attention seeking” behaviors that could happen with famous people, people hoping for a payout, jilted exes and someone you have known for years swearing up and down they didnt do it… Id want to support my friend too.

        • Smoogs@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          10 days ago

          manipulators can be either party though. You have the manipulators swearing they didnt do it and you have the manipulators trying to extort.

          You also have people who don’t understand what they did was rape and while they claim they didnt rape: the details are exactly that.

          And often rapists are more believed over a rape victim.

          Hence why it often takes multiple victims for a rape charge.

          Also false accusation is not the same as inconclusive.

          Lots of nuance.

    • SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one
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      11 days ago

      I feel like I’m the only one who was always creeper out by Kevin Spacey. American Beauty just seemed like blatant confirmation he was no good to me.

  • SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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    11 days ago

    there is something about celebrity worship to be inferred from the fact that there is only 1 non-american celebrity listed in this tgread (spanish news anchor).

    that or it is selection bias

  • eddanja@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Will Smith because of what he did to Chris Rock. Guy isn’t a genuine role model anymore.

      • starlinguk@lemmy.world
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        12 days ago

        She’s not the only one to do that. Many people precede her, including Rice and Biegel. Same within the retelling of myths and legends. Writers have been doing that for decades. There’s no need to make stuff up, he’s a horrible person without made up nonsense.

        • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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          12 days ago

          If you read her you’ll see what I am talking about.

          One good example. In her book ‘Death’s Master’ she came up with hte idea that Death and Delusion were relatives. He expanded on that idea with The Sandman.

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
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      12 days ago

      too bad he really 2 good series going on, the series cancelled them both, not because of his sexual harrasment/assaults, now they cant continue due to publicity anyways.

    • kescusay@lemmy.world
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      12 days ago

      Came here for this one. Fuck “separate the art from the artist.” I will never read one of his books again.

      • QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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        12 days ago

        If he wasn’t preachy/performative about his “feminism” it wouldn’t be as awful

        Feminism is in quotes because IMO he doesn’t believe what he preaches

        • neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works
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          11 days ago

          He believes it, he just doesn’t practice it.

          Like most men in power, they use it as a way to get close to people they can assert their power or dominance over.

          I think he believes he’s actually a feminist. it’s a subtle difference, but an important one. He genuinely believes he’s a good guy and the things he does helps more women than it hurts.

          That’s why he’s a piece of shit and so dangerous. He believes his own lies.

        • kescusay@lemmy.world
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          12 days ago

          Yep. And to think I used to admire him. I’ve had some modest success as a published science fiction and fantasy writer, and I specifically cited him as inspiration for one of my published stories.

          Wish I could take it back.

  • dil@lemmy.zip
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    11 days ago

    Sarah Silverman, said the palestinian babies need to die because theyll grow up to be terrorists then turned off comments for a year on ig, she said more than that had a whole tirade, ruined her. Shes back now pretending she didnt say anything, pr team put in work. My post on her reddit got deleted so I stopped caring about telling ppl, but this made me remember.

    • dil@lemmy.zip
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      11 days ago

      Really enjoyed the sarah silverman show, learning this and the cop in her show who was jimmy in bobs burgers went to the jan 6th riots really ruined it for me.

  • nagaram@startrek.website
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    12 days ago

    It’s not a Lemmy thread without some Star Trek references

    Robert Beltran (Chakotey), Roxan Dawson (B’Elanna), and Manu Intiravmi (Icheb).

    All three of these actors fell off after ST:Voyager and became vile conservative shit posters. I know Robert especially likes to respond to anti Trump or anti Trump Policy tweets the other ex cast members make with “both sides” arguments.

    It’s sad in my eyes, but I do hold ST on a pretty high pedestal.

      • Lianodel@ttrpg.networkEnglish
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        11 days ago

        It’s extremely funny that she ruined her own career, including a likely spin-off starring her, because she wouldn’t stop comparing the criticism of conservatives and their beliefs to the mass persecution and murder of Jews during the Holocaust.

        It’s also extremely funny that she went on to make a movie with The Daily Wire, no one saw it, it got called woke for being an action movie starring a woman.

        To top that off, it’s also extremely funny that The Daily Wire is FULL of people who couldn’t cut it in Hollywood, so they kept self-financing their own shitty movies, and are now in financial trouble.

        • FreakinSteve@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          Her movie grossed $7.00

          That’s SEVEN DOLLARS

          And nobody in this thread remembers her name lol

          Critical Drinker and his entourage can fuck off

  • SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one
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    11 days ago

    Kelsey Grammer.

    I still can’t believe he’s riding the Trump train, and is returning as Beast for the new Marvel films at the same time. The cognitive dissonance is confounding me.

  • Akasazh@feddit.nl
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    12 days ago

    Roger Deacon and Brian May from Queen. Not due to them being overt assholes, but about how the treated the cinematic legacy of Freddy Mercury.

    The blocked a movie idea with Sasha Baron Cohen playing Freddie in his flamboyant, over the top lifestyle as they wanted it to be ‘more about the band’ and they wanted Freddies death to be the middle part of the story, where the last half was them two (as Roger Deacon had walked away from them) protecting Freddies legacy.

    I mean, the reason people loved Freddie was over his larger than life persona, and I’m convinced Cohen could’ve struck the note between the over-the-top, the fabulous and the pesonal Freddie.

    Instead we got BoRep, which was an awful movie with a polished up storyline and danger free scenes. Also it was horribly edited.

    I must say, they haven’t done horrible stuff, they are decent individuals. But they got their succes out of working with Freddie yet they fail to see why everybody was so enchanted by Freddie and not so much by themselves.

    • SkaraBrae@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      12 days ago

      Roger Taylor and Brian May. John Deacon was the bass player and he retired when Freddie died.

      • Akasazh@feddit.nl
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        12 days ago

        Shit mixed those up, I wrote Deacons’ name further down in the comment too…

        fixed

      • Akasazh@feddit.nl
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        12 days ago

        Well I used to like them, but I dont anymore. So that fits the thread imho.

        It doesn’t say why you don’t like them anymore or that they must have done something horrid…

        • FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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          12 days ago

          Members of one of the most famous bands in the world, yeah they fit the thread, and you took the extra time to detail why. I dislike them for the same reason, and it was a well written post 👍