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  • Lauchmelder@feddit.org
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    11 days ago

    Should have specified that the paper must also be orientable

    • WhyIAughta@lemmy.world
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      I think that might be racist.

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        At the very least spaciesist.

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          Definitively dimensionist.

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    I would allow it, it’s brilliant. The main learning benefit of cheat sheets comes from writing them, not from using them.

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      This. Most classes in uni allowed us to have a limited number of cheat sheets and after writing them I rarely used them. Open book exams are a different beast though.

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        One of my math professors would always ask if people wanted an open book take home exam or an in person exam. Those who had taken his classes before knew to never vote for the take home open book, but were always outweighed by the new folks. Hardest exams I took in college by a large margin

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          Sounds kinda adversarial from the teachers perspective.

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            Ehh moreso that the expectations of the student with all possible resources available are much higher than an in person exam from rote. Some proofs on the in person exam would be trivial as they were similar to ones in the textbook. Take home proofs could go several pages and require you to extrapolate from what was learned so far.

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              I understand the “lesson” he’s teaching them and also understand that open book tests should be harder.

              Point is that he’s tricking them. Or letting them trick themselves. That’s not what a friend or trusted adult would do. That’s what an adversary would do.

              He has power over these kids in a big way and should be honest and up front about the reality of the situation.

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        I take certification exams that are open book. I still create an index aka cheat sheet because typing it out makes me internalize what I’m reading. It’s also easier to refer to an index of a couple of pages vs several books in a time-bound exam.

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      A great teacher would surreptitiously plant the idea to do this.

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      As someone who spent a few years teaching math, this would be a cause for celebration! I would have had a classroom pizza party the next day. This is creative usage of problem solving math that I could only dream about a classroom of students could come up with.

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      Depends on the class.

      I had a statistics course that allowed us one single sided page, but as long as your printer could handle infinitely small print, she didn’t care if you had magnification. You could hypothetically have keychain bible print for your entire book as a cheat sheet, it just wouldn’t help you in the allotted time.

      My cheat sheet for R was nothing but codes because I’m not a coder at all (R and basic Linux are my entire coding experience, and it was fucking miserable) and that helped if I remembered to label the fucking codes. And LOL nope.

      But I cheated in other classes by doing such nonsense as writing vocab on my shoes… in college language courses, which I paid for myself… so dumb and counter productive.

      I was never smart enough to cheat in regular school… I just brute forced the work… ironyyyyyyyyy

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    Something something sheets are planar, but then also allow it because it’s great.

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    Heard of someone writing in multiple colours and using tinted transparent plastic sheets to read it.

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      Clever

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    You kids and your topology.

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    How else are you going to have a 1-sided sheet?

    Hmm. Would the surface of a sphere qualify as a sheet? But I feel that is cheating. The inside would count as another side if you could only get to it.

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  • Laser@feddit.org
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    First mistake was to not specify a sheet size

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      Large industrial size roll of paper

      • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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        OK, based on the comments, it’s AI.

        This one isn’t. A sheet of paper from mythbusters.

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          wasn’t that foil?

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            No, that’s from trying to fold paper more than 7 times.

            You might be thinking of the lead foil for the lead balloon?

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              ah yeah

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          it’s AI

          Looks a lot larger than A1 tbh

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        This image… I don’t know if it is AI or it isn’t… but it certainly feels like AI…

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          That’s how they make paper and a lot of other flat goods like tape. The manufacturer makes these gigantic rolls then there’s this entire industry called converting where a company, a converter, takes it and process it down into a finished product. They may add adhesives, lamination or printing to it during the process.

          You can go to a store and buy 3M tape but 3M doesn’t actually make it like that. They make a 12ft wide, 10,000 ft roll that someone buys and forklifts into a machine that cuts it into a bunch of smaller rolls that you can buy

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            Those machines are referred to as slitters. I designed and built 2 for 3M Abrasive division back in the 1990’s. Talk about a process that involves less than reliable hardware, (I never met an air bar or pneumatic web sensor I didn’t hate), and enough wishful thinking to achieve the speeds 3M wanted them to run at that would make an Alchemist proud. I was constantly amazed that my designs even worked at all.

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          Called a Tambur, usally between 15-25 tonns. Reason not bigger / heavier is that then it starts to damage “crushes” it self.

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          Most certainly ai generated, many things in the picture don’t make much sense when looked at in detail. First of all, who would leave that absolute unit of a roll in the middle of the factory? With an axle inside?

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            It’s getting ready to be lifted like this: https://www.123rf.com/photo_135982015_paper-mill-production-of-paper-rolls-for-the-printing-industry-paper-rolls-in-a-factory.html

            The one thing that bothers me is the lack of chocks to keep it from rolling, but we can’t really see in the black area, they could be there, or the floor could have an indentation or something

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              The photo is AI. There is a tag stating so, though it’s in French.

              https://stock.adobe.com/fr/images/large-rolls-of-paper-at-a-paper-and-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-rolls-of-paper-for-further-processing/689500501

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              This one’s real, but in the other one there’s no crane nor rails for it, and there’s no machine where it can go in like you see in the back of this one. I can’t put my finger on it but I have definitely ai vibes looking at it. As other commenter has said the machinery around doesn’t make much sense either.

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            As you’ve been proven wrong, this is a good time to point out that accuracy rates of humans identifying AI pics is ~50%, or no better than guesswork. Keep that in mind the next time you declare something AI. YOU might be the reason an artist quits their passion, not AI

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              As you’ve been proven wrong

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                I was referring to OP’s statement about the axle, which somebody else pointed out is standard practice.

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                  I’m not buying that given the second half of your comment. You’re just trying to weasel out instead of apoloigising.

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              How have I been proven wrong? The other commenter posted a (real) picture of a similar thing, that proves that these exist (which I haven’t put into question), not that the other picture is not ai generated. They even said that some detail bugs them, so no one has ‘proven’ the first image is a real photograph.

              On the other hand, the poster of that link didn’t say they’re quitting art, just not posting it online. But even if that were the case, receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist.

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                Not sure if you saw my edit before replying. I’m just referring to your statement about the axle. I’m aware the pic itself is AI gen.

                receiving (even unjust) criticism is part of being an artist.

                What kind of logic is that? So let’s just contribute to make things worse for them?

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                  No I didn’t, and like the other commenter I don’t buy it either. My comment didn’t say you don’t put the axle into the roll, that’s very common for machines that are roll-fed. My comment said you don’t leave it laying around in the middle of a factory. Even with much smaller machines, eg a receipt printer, where you put the axle into the roll before installing it into the machine the axle is part of the machine and usually there’s only one. You pull it out of the depleted one as you take it out from the machine, put it in the new roll, and install that roll on the machine.

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          It’s listed on Adobe Stock photos[1]

          I did find other similar photos[2][3] so it looks like it’s an actual thing that exists. Actually found a listing for a 1 metric ton roll of it[4].

          [1] https://stock.adobe.com/fr/images/large-rolls-of-paper-at-a-paper-and-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-rolls-of-paper-for-further-processing/689500501

          [2] https://www.dreamstime.com/large-rolls-paper-cardboard-production-plant-finished-products-further-processing-image299294779

          [3] https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/large-paper-rolls.html

          [4] https://m.kraftpaper-rolls.com/sale-11507857-100gsm-environment-friendly-natural-brown-kraft-paper-jumbo-roll-for-making-bag.html

          • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de
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            The Adobe stock photos link says its generated.

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              Holy shit. Ok I’m gonna make an ai to feed generated prompts into a generative AI, let it run for a week and sell the mountain of slop as stock photos.

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                Do it. You either get that cheese or they stop being shit.

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            [2] is ai generated or so it says. [4] is real but not as big, and not quite a ton, it says ‘307kg’.

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        Telltales: floor too shiny, machines on the sides dont make sense, inconsistencies in piping in the ceiling, random floating bits on the top right, a few big shadows that dont match the windows instead of many smaller ones

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          The spacing on the lights up top is super weird. AI seems to have a real problem recreating consistent repeated patterns.

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    Relevant xkcd.

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    Id only allow it if it was a seamless piece of paper (not taped together) lol

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      i don’t think that’s fair because such papers don’t exist

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        Glue and lots of patience and skill and it can.

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          so tape isn’t allowed but glue is?

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            Just weld the paper. Problem solved.

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    I’m no math teacher but I’d call that worth extra credit!

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    Should get bonus points.

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    I wouldn’t even be mad. As long as they could explain what a Mobius Strip is, they can use it.

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      just points

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    Are you, by any chance, subscribed to Kyle? 🧐

    • voodooattack@lemmy.worldOP
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      Yes, and I shamelessly stole it because it belongs here too!

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        Oh definitely! 🤭

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