And so it begins.
Time to fuck up some fascist. Someone is going to get domed soon when the current escalation.
Anyone remember what this was from?
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed”
That works until people the conservatives don’t like start arming up. Like Black Panthers.
Well then everyone the conservatives don’t like need to start arming up before they realize the gun control they always wanted exists, but only to keep “mental ill” people from buying them and the only things considered illnesses are things conservatives don’t like.
Breaking through the mental wall for anti-2A liberals unfortunately only happens once it’s too late to get effective training, if it happens at all…
A gun/gear group I know of recently tried to donate money to a charity for queer folks in the the south. The charity denied the donation because “they don’t take money from anyone who uses firearms for work” (paraphrased).
Let’s take a moment to digest that.
I recently got a small group of gay/trans/ally/hiking friends to a range and I think it’s going to be a more regular thing. I have a couple and another person had several, and the range does rentals. One of us (who’d never even fired a gun) has a small piece of property and they ended up trying/purchasing a little 10/22 to take out to their property to start trying to get some small game. I’m deep in the a red state though so convincing more on-the-fence/marginalized people to protect themselves isn’t hard given the right conversation.
I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety. Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.
The shadowy cabals the rightwing says are behind everything is classic projection again, they’re controlled by shadowy cabals of rich people. One of the primary ghouls/traitors responsible for the attempted overthrow of our government on J6 was Roger Stone, the same traitorous ratfucker who began his career working for Nixon and has a fucking Nixon tattoo on his back. It’s really impossible to overstate how bad these people are and they’re winning.
The coup was successful, they’re in power and if they don’t want to give it up they won’t.
Get to know people in your community. Take an interest in growing food, learn how to fix things. Establish secondary lines of communication and start preparing.
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Yeah, But it was never intended to stop things from happening from the inside. Whoever ends up on the opposite side of the military in the end is going to lose.
It depends on how many people end up on the opposite side. Tens, hundreds, for sure. Thousands, likely. Tens of thousands, not so certain. Hundreds of thousands, I don’t know. If the army starts shooting to kill any significant numbers of Americans, things are going to get very interesting.
Realistically, the rioters are going to eventually be condemned by the peaceful protestors, and the general population will soon follow, thus giving support for law enforcement to squash them and end the fiasco. This has been the case for a loooooong time.
the rioters … peaceful protestors
Then the peaceful protestors don’t really care about advancing the cause they’re protesting for.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-the-failure-of-nonviolence
Ah yes, I’m sure those peaceful protesters during the civil rights movement didn’t care about the cause they were protesting for.
The civil rights movement succeeded because the authorities were made to realize that if they didn’t play ball with MLK, folks like Malcolm X and Huey Newton were the alternative.
That’s just false, civil rights weren’t achieved through intimidation. The movement succeeded because it achieved it’s objective through peaceful means. The movement organized peaceful protests to raise awareness and bring attention to the issues, they organized and fought legal battles challenging the status quo, they created institutions to help campaign for their causes, and disavowed violence to win over the general public. It is the prime example in history what peaceful protesting can achieve.
The civil rights movement is not alone, other movements like the suffragette movements in the West, the Salt Marches in India, the Singing revolution in the Baltics, and so on all achieved momentous things peacefully.
I linked to a literal book that argues otherwise.
the suffragette movements in the West
You mean this suffragette movement?
When by 1903 women in Britain had not been enfranchised, Pankhurst decided that women had to “do the work ourselves”; the WSPU motto became “deeds, not words”. The suffragettes heckled politicians, tried to storm parliament, were attacked and sexually assaulted during battles with the police, chained themselves to railings, smashed windows, carried out a nationwide bombing and arson campaign…
the Salt Marches in India,
Why is India partitioned, then? (Hint: take a look at the Muslim League’s tactics and goals.)
the Singing revolution in the Baltics
Kind of a special case; the USSR collapsed all by itself and didn’t try to oppose them.
You mean this suffragette movement?
Yes. It was a peaceful movement. Their goals weren’t achieved through violence.
Why is India partitioned, then?
The goal of the movement was to end British rule over the subcontinent, and they achieved that goal.
Kind of a special case; the USSR collapsed all by itself and didn’t try to oppose them.
You’re not giving these people their credit. The Soviet Union was filled with violent factions that wanted to prevent dissolution and the end of communism. These people managed to literally sing their way to independence.
Normally I might agree but this is LA. They’ve been through this shit before.
New rage against the machine album coming…
Just saw an ICE truck carrying a bunch of jackboots through Echo Park. Don’t know where they’re ultimately heading to though.
How do you know it’s an ICE truck? What does it look like? I’ve seen white ones in videos, but surely they don’t all look the same.
It was a big black unmarked truck full of black armor wearing soldier types hanging off the sides. I’m no expert on cop sightings but I’m pretty sure even they have their emblem on the sides of their heavy duty vehicles. Besides, isn’t it their MO nowadays to go everywhere wearing balaclavas without visible insignias or name tags?
You could tell because it had fanciful decorations of ice cream cones and candy on the sides and it had a big horn loudspeaker playing “Turkey in the Straw”. You see them all the time just driving slowly up and down the neighborhood streets.
hopefully they’re headed to the Santa Monica pier, where they accidentally drive off the end and into the ocean
Nothing a couple of well placed cocktails couldn’t handle.
If this turns into an American Tiananmen Square, you’re going to end up knocking a star off that flag.
On July 4, 2025, where nothing happened in Lafayette Square, Washington D.C.
Most of the people on this site that cheer this on also happen to be the ones who think that the Tiananmen Square massacre didn’t happen, and if it did then it was a good thing.
It depends on whether we’re allowed to talk about it in 5 years.
The rest of the world is watching and we will be talking about it even if the “land of the free” isn’t allowed to.
Absolutely you are, We will too.
The key difference between tiananmen square and what’s going on right now will be whether US citizens are prohibited from talking about it in 5 years.
If you are citizens aren’t prohibited then it wasn’t a tiananmen square.
Right now, 50/50 maybe 60/40
I hope this don’t turn to a civil war
Well, we won’t call it that. Vietnam was techincally “a police action”, but we all know it was a war. This police action will get folks killed in an effort to take prisoners, which sure sound like a…
Also Nixon’s distraction from his own problems
I mean the Nazis aren’t going to go ohh my bad we should have another try at the election.
I just don’t see how a civil war could start. It’s not like back in the day where you could just amass an army without the state really knowing
The amount of intel the state has means that nothing will get off the ground
I guess if like a state and it’s national guard would revolt and other states join them? Seems very unlikely though
Since there is a lot of fictions between dems and republicans and there is many gun owners in the usa some people could decide to use arms to counter ice and republicans could side with ice and do the same
The options at this point are 1: a civil war or 2: surrendering to the fascist regime.
July 4th…
raise hell!
TACO
Yep, really chickened out of deploying Gestapo.
Well, we always knew #RATM were right, but no one expected yet another playbook decades after this album was released in 1999. It all feels that unreal… 😔
“I liked them before they got all political” – Some Republican dumbass.
I can only assume they thought Bulls on Parade was about a family holiday to the beach.
The video for “Freedom” was the first time many in Gen X learned about AIM and Leonard Peltier.
RATM is half the reason for my political awareness and absolutely why I know about AIM (and that Val Kilmer movie but RATM is why I actually looked into it).
There was that Val Kilmer movie
Holy fuck. Some finally have the balls to stand up and fight and a bunch of you are all…this is wrong. Escalation and violence is not ok…or…but they have so many big guns.
Your country is run by a fucking dictator. Your own people are being forcefully removed from their homes and families and put in concentration camps.
Unbelievable.
I have leveled some pretty strong words at Americans in the past- but it wasn’t until this year that they really revealed themselves as a nation of utter cowards.
I hope they’re scared
The “L.A. 92” part of this song needs an “L.A. 25” update.
They want another Kent State
Is it gonna be Kent State or Tiananmen Square?
First one, then the other
More like Concord or Lexington
