• Bgugi@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 days ago

    What “anarchistic structure” has derived authority exclusively through consent, and done so without allowing other violent power structures to form?

    • Eldritch@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 days ago

      Unless you can tell me of any structure that has succeeded in that. That is an irrelevant question

      • Bgugi@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        2 days ago

        “allow” as in permit or not address… Obviously no structure is 100% successful at eliminating opposition, but without the monopoly of violence any government becomes usurped by another body that is willing to exert force.

        • Ardent@kbin.earth
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          2 days ago

          No one should have a monopoly of anything beyond their own person/labor/property. Much less violence. Jesus Christ, you’re literally arguing for most of the issues with modern systems unironically.

        • Eldritch@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          2 days ago

          Anarchism doesn’t mean the absence of force.

          Just as tolerance cannot exist if those who are intolerant are tolerated. Those who violate the similar social agreement to consent. Forgo consent.

          • Bgugi@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            2 days ago

            If you’re going to motte and Bailey, try not to do it in one conversation. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

            So a bunch of mental gymnastics later, we have two groups: those who consent to authority, and those who comply with authority because of the threat or application of violence.

            • Eldritch@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              2 days ago

              I see. So you worked yourself into a corner and don’t know where to go from here. So our claiming a fallacy. Gotcha. Honestly I didn’t ever think you’re really engaging in good faith anyhow.