Idk, I think we should have sympathy for people being kill because of war at all times.
I don’t know who lived in the place that was bombed there, but unless I have reason to believe that that person is somehow responsible for the genocide, why would I hate them?
Israel is obviously filled with genocidal people, and those who support genocide are not going to get my sympathy, but there are those who are actively fighting it even. So I do feel sympathy for innocent people dying because of genocidal governments and their need to bomb every living thing around them.
wasn’t it about 82% of Israelis that supported the forced expulsion of Palestinians? I’m all for having sympathy for the innocent, just doesn’t seem like there are that many innocents there.
You know, the reason we have sympathy for Palestinian civilians is because they’re not responsible for the actions of Hamas on Oct 7, even if many of them were brainwashed to be happy about the massacre. Please apply the same logic to sympathizing with civilians who are not responsible for Likud’s actions, a large proportion of whom have also been protesting against the party in the past year.
The current Israeli administration is ruthless and bloodthirsty and it’s diminishing the should of it’s people. That being said, I don’t think any major power in the world, including China and Russia are sad to see Iran’s nuclear program get set back.
We support Hamas, and we support its brave fight against the colonialism, we feel bad about them because we support the colonized against the colonizer, now gtfo
I am staunchly anti-colonization and support resistance against oppression. I also believe there are people who are innocent and who have no choice in where they’re born or where their parents move them to, who generally go about life fairly normally with all the complexity (and tacit complicity) human life and circumstance brings–civilians. I do not support what Hamas did on Oct 7 and I certainly don’t support what the IDF has done in Gaza over the last year or the ongoing settlement in the West Bank. You and I live on the same planet and I will love your right to life always, but I will not gtfo just because I disagree with unfettered self-righteous bloodlust.
For an instance nominally based on worker solidarity and elevating the proletariat, everyone sure is pretty quick to throw that out the window for tribalism and nationalism
Are you serious right now? Communism isn’t based on solidarity with settler-colonists who are genociding the people they locked into the Gaza prison-ghetto for a generation, for the crime of being indigenous. October 7th was a prison break, a Warsaw ghetto uprising.
These aren’t people being tried for their crimes, not even people being picked out and put in front of a firing squad. This is an explosion in a city. You have no clue who might have been in that area any more than I do.
How many residents have fired a weapon against a Palestinian? 30% if you’re being generous? That’s about the same as the population of children.
You’re OK with those odds? Or does your form of communism always cheer at indiscriminate death so long as some of the right people get caught in it? If X% of the population drinks the apartheid propoganda kool-aid it’s open season? What’s your number?
Here’s a fun fact, did you know that 65 other countries also have mandatory military service, including Iran? Being a class traitor by the law of the state doesn’t make you not proletariat.
Abandoning massive chunks of workers based only on their place of birth or the bubble of propoganda they live in is the opposite of every reputable leftist ideology. If your empathy for the people crushed under the rubble of an apartment complex depends on the flag out front then just admit you’re a frothing nationalist and stop pretending.
Here’s a fun fact, most Israelis—bourgeois and proletariat—approve of what the state of Israel is doing in Gaza.
These are fascists. If there’s anything to be learned from WWII, it’s that no one is more antifascist than communists.
If your empathy for the people crushed under the rubble of an apartment complex depends on the flag out front then just admit you’re a frothing nationalist and stop pretending.
Palestinians don’t have a nation. They’ve been under occupation by European settler-colonists for about 80 years.
As for Iran, it is an anti-imperialist state retaliating against an unprovoked attack by an imperialist state, which it has the right to do by UN law. Marxist-Leninists give Iran our critical support[1] in the struggle against imperialist states, not to mention the struggle against genocide.
Critical support is supporting something while also being critical of its flaws. ↩︎
Yeah, mandatory military service, not mandatory baby killer service, No such thing as a settler comrade or a settler proletariat, a motherfucker who goes into Palestinian homes kills or kicks out the occupants and takes it as his deserves to get crushed by an airstrike.
It’s wild hearing Americans who went on a 20 year genocidal way because they were attacked at home, cheering on others being attacked at home. Your government fucked by country and people, do I get to blow up your family and be cheered?
I didn’t go on shit and I don’t support US imperialist actions.
We were attacked at home because of previous imperialist actions, and we would have continued said imperialism whether attacked or not, that was a convenient excuse.
I would understand people cheering and I would direct my anger to the people who caused the retaliation to happen, my own government.
why are you defending America destroying your country and Israel doing the same/trying to do the same to other countries though? This make no sense.
I agree with all of it i just think you Americans need to get out of the way and stop trying to lead the charge, because you guys are toxic and taint the movement with your hypocrisy and extremist attitudes.
You al benefit from your country’s imperialism but you all dodge responsibility and say it wasnt you
Americans are blood thirsty war hawks. You guys LOVE the idea of bombing someone you don’t like. Even the American left is like this now. So long as it’s not your country being bombed and getting their just desserts for al their genocide, you love war. But anyone attacks you guys for your centuries of atrocities and suddenly it’s WAR WAR WAR
You seem to not be aware that Israel is another settler-colonial project, based on indigenous eviction and genocide, just like the US, Canada, Australia, etc.
I’d have ever so much more sympathy if they hadn’t just spent over a year genociding Palestine…
Idk, I think we should have sympathy for people being kill because of war at all times.
I don’t know who lived in the place that was bombed there, but unless I have reason to believe that that person is somehow responsible for the genocide, why would I hate them?
Israel is obviously filled with genocidal people, and those who support genocide are not going to get my sympathy, but there are those who are actively fighting it even. So I do feel sympathy for innocent people dying because of genocidal governments and their need to bomb every living thing around them.
wasn’t it about 82% of Israelis that supported the forced expulsion of Palestinians? I’m all for having sympathy for the innocent, just doesn’t seem like there are that many innocents there.
It’s like feeling bad when Berlin was bombed.
Like yeah there are of course some innocents there, but the majority are involved in either the war machine or the genocide.
You know, the reason we have sympathy for Palestinian civilians is because they’re not responsible for the actions of Hamas on Oct 7, even if many of them were brainwashed to be happy about the massacre. Please apply the same logic to sympathizing with civilians who are not responsible for Likud’s actions, a large proportion of whom have also been protesting against the party in the past year.
The current Israeli administration is ruthless and bloodthirsty and it’s diminishing the should of it’s people. That being said, I don’t think any major power in the world, including China and Russia are sad to see Iran’s nuclear program get set back.
We support Hamas, and we support its brave fight against the colonialism, we feel bad about them because we support the colonized against the colonizer, now gtfo
I am staunchly anti-colonization and support resistance against oppression. I also believe there are people who are innocent and who have no choice in where they’re born or where their parents move them to, who generally go about life fairly normally with all the complexity (and tacit complicity) human life and circumstance brings–civilians. I do not support what Hamas did on Oct 7 and I certainly don’t support what the IDF has done in Gaza over the last year or the ongoing settlement in the West Bank. You and I live on the same planet and I will love your right to life always, but I will not gtfo just because I disagree with unfettered self-righteous bloodlust.
I fully support a million oct.7
That’s not enough.
For an instance nominally based on worker solidarity and elevating the proletariat, everyone sure is pretty quick to throw that out the window for tribalism and nationalism
Are you serious right now? Communism isn’t based on solidarity with settler-colonists who are genociding the people they locked into the Gaza prison-ghetto for a generation, for the crime of being indigenous. October 7th was a prison break, a Warsaw ghetto uprising.
These aren’t people being tried for their crimes, not even people being picked out and put in front of a firing squad. This is an explosion in a city. You have no clue who might have been in that area any more than I do.
How many residents have fired a weapon against a Palestinian? 30% if you’re being generous? That’s about the same as the population of children.
You’re OK with those odds? Or does your form of communism always cheer at indiscriminate death so long as some of the right people get caught in it? If X% of the population drinks the apartheid propoganda kool-aid it’s open season? What’s your number?
Apartheid governments don’t get my sympathies. If the people wanted it to end I’d support the people
There’s no such thing as a settler proletariat or worker, 50% of work as IDF the other 50% work as police
Here’s a fun fact, did you know that 65 other countries also have mandatory military service, including Iran? Being a class traitor by the law of the state doesn’t make you not proletariat.
Abandoning massive chunks of workers based only on their place of birth or the bubble of propoganda they live in is the opposite of every reputable leftist ideology. If your empathy for the people crushed under the rubble of an apartment complex depends on the flag out front then just admit you’re a frothing nationalist and stop pretending.
Here’s a fun fact, most Israelis—bourgeois and proletariat—approve of what the state of Israel is doing in Gaza.
These are fascists. If there’s anything to be learned from WWII, it’s that no one is more antifascist than communists.
Palestinians don’t have a nation. They’ve been under occupation by European settler-colonists for about 80 years.
Palestinians have the right under UN law to struggle against their occupiers by any means necessary, including armed struggle, while the State of Israel, as an occupier, has no right to “self defense.”
As for Iran, it is an anti-imperialist state retaliating against an unprovoked attack by an imperialist state, which it has the right to do by UN law. Marxist-Leninists give Iran our critical support[1] in the struggle against imperialist states, not to mention the struggle against genocide.
Critical support is supporting something while also being critical of its flaws. ↩︎
Yeah, mandatory military service, not mandatory baby killer service, No such thing as a settler comrade or a settler proletariat, a motherfucker who goes into Palestinian homes kills or kicks out the occupants and takes it as his deserves to get crushed by an airstrike.
I know you do.
Why would you have sympathy for Israel attacking without provocation a state that turned out to be stronger than they thought?
It’s wild hearing Americans who went on a 20 year genocidal way because they were attacked at home, cheering on others being attacked at home. Your government fucked by country and people, do I get to blow up your family and be cheered?
I didn’t go on shit and I don’t support US imperialist actions.
We were attacked at home because of previous imperialist actions, and we would have continued said imperialism whether attacked or not, that was a convenient excuse.
I would understand people cheering and I would direct my anger to the people who caused the retaliation to happen, my own government.
why are you defending America destroying your country and Israel doing the same/trying to do the same to other countries though? This make no sense.
I agree with all of it i just think you Americans need to get out of the way and stop trying to lead the charge, because you guys are toxic and taint the movement with your hypocrisy and extremist attitudes.
You al benefit from your country’s imperialism but you all dodge responsibility and say it wasnt you
You assume I was for the 20 year genocidal war? Why? IMHO it was a huge fucking mistake too.
Y’all coming to my continent was a mistake too
I mean, both the United States and Israel were attacked because of Israel.
Israel deserves the blame because Israel is the problem.
If they don’t like it, they can always leave. That would make the world a better place.
The US also deserves blame, given the degree they support Israel
Americans are blood thirsty war hawks. You guys LOVE the idea of bombing someone you don’t like. Even the American left is like this now. So long as it’s not your country being bombed and getting their just desserts for al their genocide, you love war. But anyone attacks you guys for your centuries of atrocities and suddenly it’s WAR WAR WAR
You seem to not be aware that Israel is another settler-colonial project, based on indigenous eviction and genocide, just like the US, Canada, Australia, etc.
I suggest watching these two vids :
Well, yeah.
Supporting Israel is great for the MIC.
(I hope I don’t have to say how I’m not one of the bloodthirsty Americans you’re referring to)